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mathand1
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Keeping Chain Clean @ Lubed Reply with quote

Quite simple,
Won't be riding the bike in the wet and just had a gold coloured RK race chain fitted.
With so many lubes about for chains I find most just leave a tacky finish which just attract the grime so can I apply a chain lube that will do its job but at the same time one that will leave the chain with a shiney finish ? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've bought and used a shit load of lubes ...some ones for the bike too.
My bike lives outside though, and I rarely use a cover.

The best compromise I have found is Wurth dry chain lube, has some of the good properties of chain wax (longevity mainly), but also the main benefits of an actual lubricant, looks shiny, but whiteish.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've given up on the dry chain lube stuff tbh.

Yes, it's not as messy but, if you're commuting daily in all weather, I find that it just doesn't cut the mustard and you'll need give it another coating after every wet ride.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still looking for that perfect chain lube. I've taken to cleaning the chain with WD40 (would use paraffin if I had some to hand), wiping off thoroughly, choosing a lube that goes on nice and thin, applying, then wiping off the excess. Am managing to keep a gold chain looking gold this way. Not that I ride in wet weather much, so I don't have a huge battle with corrosion thankfully.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
I'm still looking for that perfect chain lube. I've taken to cleaning the chain with WD40 (would use paraffin if I had some to hand)


OK lads, duck and cover, you know the routine.

*Awaits impending WD40 ShitStorm* Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuter_Tim wrote:
chickenstrip wrote:
I'm still looking for that perfect chain lube. I've taken to cleaning the chain with WD40 (would use paraffin if I had some to hand)


OK lads, duck and cover, you know the routine.

*Awaits impending WD40 ShitStorm*


Yeah, I thought that, but, ya know Middle Finger Mr. Green Middle Finger Laughing


Works for me Smile
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best idea for a clean chain is

Buy a scooter they have a belt

Or a shaft drive BMW they apparently can also be used off road but are ace for going to the local cafe looking shiney
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cleaned my chain yesterday using Muc Off Chain cleaner and the using the Dry lube that they do.

One quick question though. Do people clean the sprockets with the same stuff. Because I'm not mechanically minded and I wouldn't dare remove them in case I messed it up. Just my sprockets are black and I'm scrubbing the best I can in all the nooks and crannies but just can't get access to it all Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robbeh wrote:
I cleaned my chain yesterday using Muc Off Chain cleaner and the using the Dry lube that they do.

One quick question though. Do people clean the sprockets with the same stuff. Because I'm not mechanically minded and I wouldn't dare remove them in case I messed it up. Just my sprockets are black and I'm scrubbing the best I can in all the nooks and crannies but just can't get access to it all Evil or Very Mad


Get some paraffin (cheap and does a great job) and use one of these https://i.imgur.com/Wzz3H4g.jpg

You'll have clean chain and sprockets in next to no time.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 22 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gone retro with chain lubing, paraffin to clean it, EP90 to lube. Works better than the expensive stuff and about a tenth of the price.
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PostPosted: 05:17 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for some great replies Guys Thumbs Up
I think a combination of WD40 to clean off the basic grime and a reapplication of chain lube both with the help of the chain brush seem the way to go Very Happy
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PostPosted: 05:29 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mathand1 wrote:
Thanks for some great replies Guys Thumbs Up
I think a combination of WD40 to clean off the basic grime and a reapplication of chain lube both with the help of the chain brush seem the way to go Very Happy


The usual advice here is not to use WD40 to clean your chain. Can't remember why not. I wouldn't use it myself, but found it ok and was too lazy to go out and get some paraffin, which may be a better idea - certainly will clean it well. I've used Muc Off degreaser, Jizer etc before, and they work well, but cost more. After those, rinse well with cold, clean water, dry with a rag, then apply lube. Don't overdo the lube. Mark the chain, or start from the rivet/split link, and go round once. As I said, with lubes that go on thin, I tend to lightly wipe round again to remove excess.
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PostPosted: 05:30 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fit an oiler. Your chain will last twice as long and won't build up with snot that's harder to remove than dried weetabix.
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PostPosted: 06:47 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised people still recommend paraffin, I think it goes back to the 50s when some domestic heaters and 'oil' lamps used it.
Diesel works just as well and is easy to get hold of.
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PostPosted: 06:49 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Fit an oiler. Your chain will last twice as long and won't build up with snot that's harder to remove than dried weetabix.


So long as you make sure it's working properly and check it regularly.
Been there with them and if I put lube on it manually then it definitely gets lubed.
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PostPosted: 06:51 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Active8. They do all the shows and after a demonstration on how it works i was sold. It's all i use. Active8 chain cleaner first, which leaves a tacky film for the active8 lube to stick too. Would recccomend to anyone.
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PostPosted: 07:56 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I give the chain a quick wipe with a rag every 4-500 miles, and apply cheap gear oil, applied with an old fashioned oil can, every 2-300 miles.

Doesn't seem to attract crap like the wax based solutions.

I would fit an oiler, but there isn't much space on the little msx
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to use Wurth dry chain lube but have now switched to SDoc100 White Chain Spray. Really good, doesn't fling off. Downside is it's not cheap compared to the Wurth one (500ml for £10 Vs £12 for 300ml) but I'm happy with how it's working. Plus the SDoc chain cleaner is awesome too.

sportsbikeshop are currently giving away an extra mini spray can (75ml) with the big one. You could have it with you and use it whenever you go away. Can be refilled from a big can too.
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD40 has ingredients that attack the rubber o-rings in your chain. (apparently).

I don't use WD40 because paraffin is much much cheaper. Diesel is messy and doesn't evaporate like paraffin does.

I return to using gearbox oil on my chain. Mainly because it's cheap. But it also lasts a while. It does also remove a lot of the grime as well.
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paraffin's about £1.50 a litre, chain cleaning sprays are about £20 a litre. No brainer.
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use WD40, these are my favourites...

https://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/motorcyclesJZ/Mobile%20Uploads/m9lPQuESgL06WZslW6oEUOA_zps9cifjt9m.jpg
WD40 Chain Cleaner and WD40 Chain Wax
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scottoiler/thread.
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fisty wrote:
Scottoiler/thread.



The last bike I had with a Scottoiler would piss oil everywhere. So I'd adjust it, it'd be alright for a while, then start doing it again. Might as well lube the fecking thing myself, was the conclusion I came to, especially after I noted one time that the oil was getting on the rear tyre.

The new bike has one fitted. I'll see how I get along with it.

I'm happy to stop using WD40 to clean the chain, but does anyone have absolute proof of the problems it can cause, and not just hearsay? Hasn't caused shorter chain life for me thus far, as far as I can tell. Don't seem to be adjusting it more or anything like that. Always nice to have facts though Smile
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 23 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still just use white spirit (don't know anywhere that sells paraffin local) to clean the chain then engine oil, clean it every couple of months and oil it every few days and never had any problems
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