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Robchester
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 01 Feb 2005    Post subject: SV650s Reply with quote

Thinking about the SV now that the GS is gone. Rode the Bandit but not sure if its what i want. I felt like i was on top of that bike, whereas sitting on the SV, i felt part of it (although i havent managed to ride one)

Anyone in the North got one for sale? (New shape)

Opinions anyone?
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 01 Feb 2005    Post subject: Re: SV650s Reply with quote

I would look at a bike with a bit more power if you are looking to 'progress' up the stakes. Maybe an older sports 600 or one of the newer semi-naked 600s, for instance a hornet or fazer.

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PostPosted: 21:54 - 01 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pick up my new SV650S K4 on Saturday and I love it, even though I've only been on it for about 2 hours. Wait till this weekend though.....

I looked at bandit 600's and it's a good bike, just too much 'old hat' for me. Especially when you look at the price of a new bandit compared to the SV.

Mines cost £4,100 and I think that's a bargain next to a hornet 600 (£5,199) or fazer 600 (£5,399). Plus it's a V-twin Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 01 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear SV's handle nicely, are easy to ride, and are supprisingly quick in the right hands. They arn't a sports bike, but they are a great commuter and general perpose bike with sporty intentions.
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 01 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will say go for it! brilliant bikes, even though mine is the old style K2 model, its still pretty much the same.
Handling is good, slower than any sports bike but completely stable even when the pegs are grinding! Engine is a lot more pokey than anyone expects with good power through out and all important character is added with the V-twin characteristics!!

Best bike in the real world in my biased opinion! Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 01 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would be cheaper on consumables? I've heard that V-twins can loosen their camchains a bit? I'm seriously considering a >00 Bandit S or a Pre K3 SV as my next bike and would like to know about general running cost side of things and how easy the are to maintain - Oh, does the bandit have a side stand and the SV not?

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PostPosted: 00:01 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

SV has a side stand.

Fuel efficiency is about 45-50mpg was getting about 180 miles to a tank safely on european motorways.

Tyres dont last that long really, about 4000 miles to a stock rear tyre. Chains seem to be ok though not had to change mine yet barely had to tighten it in 6000miles.

Been absolutely no problems reliability wise and its not that difficult to work on either.

Hope thats some help.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would look at a bike with a bit more power if you are looking to 'progress' up the stakes. Maybe an older sports 600 or one of the newer semi-naked 600s, for instance a hornet or fazer.


I don't do this on purpose but as usual I disagree with 'G',

I think the Fazer and Hornet are ok but I really I like the SV and I have ridden one, then again I like twins, I find midsized in-line 16v fours too much like hard work, too much of the power at the top end, fine if you're into it but I'm not I like the torque and delivery of a twin.

Plus you can't ignore the fact that the Hornert & Fazer are two (even three) insurance groups up on the SV and much more expensive.

After two years I still have a great deal of fun on my Monster which isn't an outrageously fast bike and for me that's what having a bike is all about.

I've always had the odd go on my brothers sports bikes but I just don't like them - he seems to.

I might get a Speed Triple next.
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shall continue the tradition and argue my point.

Have you ridden the Hornet or Fazer? I found the Hornet has a very smooth and bland power delivery. With the sports 600s it's not so much that you have a lot less low down, just alot more at the top, giving the impression of a weaker midrange.
I generally find fours are smoother if ridden smoothly; while twins are smoother if ridden more harshly. The longer rev range of the fours help to give a smoother feeling when not ragging it, I find.

I don't have chosen a 250 for 'fun' road riding... along with a dr600. So I'm not in it for the power at the moment.

However I do remember what I was like at that point in my biking 'career'. People have suggested that I liked power rather too much, but I definitey would have been disapointed with the step up from a 500 twin to a 650 twin.
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PostPosted: 00:42 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Words of wisdom G, cheers, don't think I'll bother thinking of an sv650 then. Can strike that off my list for next october. One thing I REALLY don't want to be with my next bike is bored. Perhaps 12 months down the line, but not 3 months after I buy it, like I am with the er5.

Can only really see a zrx1100 being suitable for me...(or 1200)
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like the SV650 i think they've got a really good engine. As i normally ride an R6 i find the SV runs out of power a bit early but thats what you expect compared to a sports 600,but i was impressed with the performance. If i was you i'd try to get a test ride on one and see what you think.
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really beautiful bikes but lacking in power I say...
That would have been my first bike but got the Ninja instead, all depends on what your using it for.

I've read even mag testers loving this bike as it's an all round good egg. Torquey enough for decent wheelies. Only thing that I would say is try get a faired version or you'll forever be cleaning crap out of it and it will look fairly tattered after use...

Greg, get a sports 600. They really do do everything, comfy enough to commute and fast enough not to get bored of... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, the only drawback colin is that its going to be chained to a lampost outside. I don't have a garage up here Sad

Thats the only thing that would really stop me.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even then said, you could still get your current bike nicked??
Can you not get a lock up?
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lock up? I doubt it...

Trouble is, an er5 is never going to be desireable, not even to a thief. There is what I think is a tl1000r/gsxr600 (its got a huge arse anyway) parked up with its cover on, hidden away and its been tehre all winter. For about 3 months.

Chances are, I'll probably take the risk and get one this year, but its going to be like fort knox. Poor lampost Wink
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaffa wrote:
I think the Fazer and Hornet are ok but I really I like the SV and I have ridden one, then again I like twins, I find midsized in-line 16v fours too much like hard work, too much of the power at the top end, fine if you're into it but I'm not I like the torque and delivery of a twin.

Plus you can't ignore the fact that the Hornert & Fazer are two (even three) insurance groups up on the SV and much more expensive.

I might get a Speed Triple next.


OMG! I'm agreeing again.

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PostPosted: 19:25 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg, getting a sports bike is the way forward and you KNOW'S IT.. Thumbs Up

I know what you mean tho, wouldn't want anyone trying to thief my bike. I couldn't sleep at night if mines was chained to a poll Sad
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

had one when they first came out, grin factor 10, ace fun to ride to work on a sunday,track etc, never had anything go wrong ever !loads of bolt ons if thats your thing. had a 94 gixer 750 before i got the sv, what it lacks in flat out power it makes up for in v twin grunt. not the fastest out there but handle really well, newer models are pretty much the same from what i gather. try this site if still unsure. svorg.com Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up cheap to insure.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

had one when they first came out, grin factor 10, ace fun to ride to work on a sunday,track etc, never had anything go wrong ever !loads of bolt ons if thats your thing. had a 94 gixer 750 before i got the sv, what it lacks in flat out power it makes up for in v twin grunt. not the fastest out there but handle really well, newer models are pretty much the same from what i gather. try this site if still unsure. svorg.com Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up cheap to insure.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 02 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

cc123 wrote:
Greg, getting a sports bike is the way forward and you KNOW'S IT.. Thumbs Up

I know what you mean tho, wouldn't want anyone trying to thief my bike. I couldn't sleep at night if mines was chained to a poll Sad


I literally sleep with one eye open!!!!

Have to keep the window open 24/7 so I can hear anything (if a chain was smashed, then I'd certainly hear it Smile)

Think I'm going to get the er5 alarmed anyway.
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 03 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see peoples points of view but you have to look at my particular situation to see why im making these choices.

Im 23, with currently 1 yrs no claims and less than 2 years and 3000 miles experience. Im also mid policy with an insurance company who wont insure me on something like a CBR600f (i know ive tried).

Im still trying to find my feet financially after 3 yrs skint at uni. Ive sold the GS so i have a grand in my pocket but with many other costs to lay out this year, i dont feel as if i can spend xxx amounts of money on a bike, insure and run it. Therefore im looking at fun on a budget.

Im going from a parallel twin which the mags say is dated and has poor handling looking to a modern v twin with FI and what is described as excellent handling. I do admit G that i havent tried the bike for power so that is yet to be found out but when i rode the 51reg bandit, being an inline 4 i wasnt used to the style of riding.

I wont consider a Hornet because im not gonna buy naked and i dont like the faired version. The Fazer is higher in insurance, and in my opinion not very good looking (older style anyway). Quite a few have said by a CBR600f but frankly i couldnt afford to at this moment - not so much the initial cost but the general running costs of the bike.

So this leaves me with 2 options:
A Post 2000 Bandit 600s - inline 4, upright comfy riding style
A SV650s K3 onwards - V Twin, more "focused" riding position

Bandit lovers say that the SV is a girls bike, too small etc while SV owners will say the Bandit looks dated and is too heavy. I guess the test ride is the only way to find out, but trying to find a test ride for an SV is proving a lot harder than i thought. Either dealers wont touch me because of my age or they dont have their demo bikes in stock yet.
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 03 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't pay attention to anyone who describes anything as 'a girl's bike'. They're just up themselves.

I'd go for the SV, even if only for V-twin coolness, nice wide torque delivery and the most excellent sound.
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 03 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at early zx6 or cbr6 (post 95, say). They don't have the power of the newest models and are a bit softer handling.

Probably cheaper and more fun possibilities than the semi-naked bikes listed.
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PostPosted: 01:15 - 03 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well ive been offered a 53 model in silver with fairing lowers, road legal can, seat cowl and tail tidy. Its done 9000 miles and has a FSH.

Anyone know of a rough guide price?
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