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KingLies
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 13 Jun 2015    Post subject: An obvious question... ? Reply with quote

If you've passed your full test, could you theoretically still use your L plates if you wanted to?

I can't say I haven't toyed with the idea of popping them on and waiting for some VW Golf chav to start revving up at the lights... Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 13 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Plates should be removed or covered when not being driven by a learner (except on driving school vehicles).
Law MV(DL)R reg 16 & sched 4


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PostPosted: 13:36 - 13 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legally you can, but Ls on a big bike might attract unwanted attention from plod.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 13 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would do nothing other than say "Hey Mr Policeman, look at meee! Pull me over! Ask me some incredibly awkward questions. Please, please here I'm here I'm here!!"

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PostPosted: 13:53 - 13 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I'll actually do it, but it's interesting to know. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 13 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Law states that provisional licence holders "MUST" display L-Plates (complying fully with regulations on size, and border), visible from both front and rear of the vehicle.. ie it is a specific 'requirement' of law. states that Full Licence holders "Should Not" display L's.. hence it is merely an advisory comment, its not against the law to do so.

I think its somewhere in the RTA or one of the C&U amendments there's more detailed 'advice' such as Driving-School vehicles, where a driving instructor 'should' remove or cover over 'permanently fixed' L-Plates or other, 'Learner Markings' when the vehicle isn't being driven by a Learner or during the 'normal working day' of the instructor... and when I was instructing, if we were ferrying school bikes with L's on about, further than popping to the petrol station to top'em up, we would tape an X over the plate; as it's 'code of practice'.

I will confess I did rather wanted to fit cut-down L-Plates to one of my 125's; "That L-Plates illegal - Must be umpety mm"... "Err.. but I'm not a learner!"... "then you shouldn't be displaying L-Plates!".. "But officer! You just told me its NOT a 'legal' L-Plate..." and see how they got out of it!

But then, I once got harangued outside ASDA by an (older) fella on a scooter, who insisted that I should fit L-Plates to the 125 'cos "Plods hot on it & WILL do ya! 2-points per missing plate!" he added. Got quite heated when I told him I didn't need them. "But its a ONE-TWO-FIVE.. it HAS to 'ave'em!"... "Err.. no.. LEARNERS have to have'em!"... "Yeah! 125! so it got to have L-Plates!!!".... "but I'm not a learner"... "then wot-choo-doowin on a 125?!?!".... "TRYING to lock the chain round it and do my shopping!" told me I was 'daft' for having a full licence.. he'd been riding for twelve years 'just' repeating his CBT... "Cheaper, innit!"... err... "No"... but you get'em!

Meanwhile, Corsa-kid'll give it revs L-Plate or no, if they are that way inclined... I tend to just let'em get on with it... I even let them 'beat' me off the line from time to time... it makes them feel special.. and in-front, they are easier to keep an eye on, and frequently quite amusing to watch... just have to remember they will almost STOP if there's a road bump ahead.. I like that.. the sound of over-size exhausts grinding on tarmac... Personally I have never seen it, but my (teenage schoolgirl) daughter recounts an incident with one actually loosing their tail pipe on one outside the school, and the embarrassed twerps getting out to retrieve it.. and burning themselves on the hot metal... So, I'm still hopeful of observing such spectacle!
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 13 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite an interesting grey area actually.

I wonder how driving instructors (when driving alone in their L-plated cars) are sometimes treated by other motorists?
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 13 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing legally to stop you displaying them.
Driving instructors don't take everything leaner related off the car between lessons.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 13 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wednesday Biker wrote:
Driving instructors don't take everything leaner related off the car between lessons.


Would be helpful if they did, I've come across a few cars that have L plates displayed with no passengers, I never now if it's a learner driver risking a quick ride or someone fully qualified, overtaking and getting as far away works for me.
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 13 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
Quite an interesting grey area actually.

I wonder how driving instructors (when driving alone in their L-plated cars) are sometimes treated by other motorists?


Bastards always want to cut you up, have the urge to wind their windows down and comment on your driving thinking that they are correcting you when actually they are wrong, always tell you when a light is out (lights checked about 6=7 times a day but still happens.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 13 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

When my dad worked for BSM, he pointed out that their cars only displayed an L plate when it had the magnetic pyramid on the roof. It went in the boot between pupils.

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PostPosted: 03:49 - 14 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
When my dad worked for BSM, he pointed out that their cars only displayed an L plate when it had the magnetic pyramid on the roof. It went in the boot between pupils.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/05/article-0-0D0D9660000005DC-934_468x286.jpg



He kept pupils in the boot?
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PostPosted: 06:06 - 14 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like you don't?!?
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PostPosted: 08:23 - 14 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

But that's a Corsa, to get two in there plus that sign they'd have to be pretty early primary schoolers.

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PostPosted: 12:11 - 14 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highway code states

"Plates should be removed or covered when not being driven by a learner (except on driving school vehicles).
Law MV(DL)R reg 16 & sched 4"

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/2864/contents/made
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 14 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
But that's a Corsa, to get two in there plus that sign they'd have to be pretty early primary schoolers.

On topic, no offence, no worries.


It's an Astra, it'd fit two teens easily...
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