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PostPosted: 21:44 - 22 Jun 2015    Post subject: 650 Deauville on a trackday Reply with quote

Must have been giving away at least 75-100 bhp to the others, seems to do alright though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdR4IEusGZc
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 22 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair play. Looks to be in novice. Bet there were a few red faces after that. I wonder if he had the heated grips set just so?
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 22 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

He knew how to ride and he knew that track well. Like hell I would even try to go like that on the bends even after a few laps. The scraping is a dead giveaway.

One thing it does show is how a lot of riders don't reach anywhere near their bikes potential, me included.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 22 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I hear people giving this or that model of bike a bad rap or derisory term I usually ask them what in particular they did not like about the bike.

Invariably they have never owned or ridden the bike they were referring too, just parrotted out what they heard or read somewhere to make it seem like they know what they are talking about.

When I've thought about it, most people I know have owned or ridden fewer than 10 bikes, one or two of them know everything about hundreds of bikes, especially when the beer is flowing Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 22 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure on your point with that. I've not owned but have ridden more then 10 in the short time I've been riding.

Also most reputations are deserved. Ill bet if you stuck that guy on one of the hyper bikes he was pasting, the video would be very different. In fact it was a bit dickish really. If it was the novice group, this guy keeps hammering through and crowding them. Would probably unsettle most who are trying to learn.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 22 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was very entertaining Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 22 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I claim it's never really about the motorcycle or a car, it's all about the rider. I also find it easier to go fast on something that was never meant to be fast, rather than on an actually fast motorcycle. The ZXR was a big eye opener for me. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 22:43 - 22 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a little chuckle when the bloke on the Daytona? had a little wobble @ 2:04.
He must have been thinking this bloke aint gonna beat me.

Some of the other riders seemed more interested in getting their knee down that taking a decent line.

Sload wrote:
Also most reputations are deserved. Ill bet if you stuck that guy on one of the hyper bikes he was pasting, the video would be very different. In fact it was a bit dickish really. If it was the novice group, this guy keeps hammering through and crowding them. Would probably unsettle most who are trying to learn.


Very much this. I'm not up with track day rules and ting but If I were among this particular group I think I would have probably just buggered off home. Not because of being show up but I would hope to be able to enjoy the track and learn techniques rather than worrying whether some pea-narse is gonna take me out.
Maybe I've got wrong ideas about what track days are for. Thinking


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PostPosted: 22:45 - 22 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless Deauvilles are much quicker than NTV600s (which I did once test ride) I don't believe that is 50bhp, it looks far too lively. Helps that the tacho doesn't work too, so you can't see how quickly it climbs through the revs..

Any Deauville owners here?
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 22 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snod Blatter wrote:
Unless Deauvilles are much quicker than NTV600s (which I did once test ride) I don't believe that is 50bhp, it looks far too lively. Helps that the tacho doesn't work too, so you can't see how quickly it climbs through the revs..

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Yeah I've got the 700 which has about 15bhp more I think but it looked about right and bearing in mind he was proper caning it. There's not a lot of tuning bits for these (no market for them) so Im guessing it was 50-55bhp probably. He looked like he was hitting around 100-110 on the main straight which is about right for a 650. The 700 will get to 100 fairly quickly and then to 120ish if you can wait.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 22 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Recman, that's another thing. Everyone wants to be Rossi, Biaggi, and other big names, but they are all missing the point. The knee down is not what you should aim for really. It's actually quite the opposite. You want to keep the motorcycle as upright as it's possible to have some grip. When you see the GP riders in those extreme lean angles, they are going feck fast and they get as much as grip they can at that kind of speed.

On the other hand, people riding slow and dragging their knees is actually counterproductive, because you are sacrificing the grip for the show and loads of them just get high/lowsiders because of that.

An example: I could go through a corner at 60 mph with 100% grip, or 60% of grip at the same speed, but looking cool dragging my knee on the tar. That's how this works. GP riders don't do it for the show.
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