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PostPosted: 19:56 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Dozy bird ties to wipe me out on the A2 Reply with quote

Had a spill on the way home tonight, some of you may have passed me by. Riding in lane 1 I just passed the Dartford Heath slip where a lot of people leave the A2, so a far sized gap opened up in front of me. Lane 2 and 3 start bunching up and braking then all of a sudden some dozy bird slices across about 10yds in front of me and I run into her rear quarter hard on the brakes. Down I went like a sack of spuds with my leg trapped under the bike.

I laid in the road for a bit checking all my systems were working, which thankfully they were, then a biker stopped and pulled the traktor off my leg and that let me get up.

The woman (we'll call her Winnie) was concerned that I was hurt but didn't seem overly bothered about the fact she'd tried to kill me with her driving. She said "I have my baby in the car" to which I replied "Well you should drive more carefully then". Here response was "I put my indicator on", which is true, she put the indicator on the same time that she turned the wheel, so not a lot of use to me. then she said " I did look but I didn't see you".

Thankfully the nice lady in the car behind me is a willing witness and saw it all happen. I thanked her for that because without her witness statement Winnie would simply had said that I run into the back of her. My witness said "as soon as I saw her turn I knew what it going to happen" so it should be an easy non-fault for me.

Bimma's going to be written off for sure. The whole front bodywork/subframe is twisted and the steering is fouling badly enough so it won't turn left at all. Forks are probably bent coz the dust seal is a funny shape. Shame, because I really, really like this bike. I might buy another R1100S to replace it.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Re: Dozy bird ties to wipe me out on the A2 Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
I really, really like this bike. .


Why is it when you find a bike you really really like , other people try their hardest to kill it Thinking
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid bitch, glad you are ok .
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Detest lane changers who assume that they are allowed to make the turn simultaneously with flipping on the indicator, but it happens all the time, hope the bitch gets charged for more than careless driving.

Good that you are OK.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really did try to understand the description of the event, but I simply can't picture it without the aid of a terrible paint diagram...
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just seen the Baby on Board sign.

I have total contempt for people sporting those signs, what they are really saying is "you do the observations and keep a look out for me".

When I see those signs I take avoidance action, they are an effective indicator of the driver being a retard.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad sorry to hear mate. that bike looked awesome when you first posted Sad
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet another reason I think I should invest in a helmet cam, nail the bitch to rights no questions asked.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can guess why she was given the name 'Winnie'. Laughing
Judging by pic 3 I was right.

And I also guessed Nissan, Honda or Mercedes before I looked at the pics too. Two for two.

I hate to throw stereotypes around but having lived in that part of the UK for most of my life I have to say what happened
to you is typical of a certain type of driver. You are very lucky to have a witness. You are also lucky she never killed you.
I drove a truck around the Tottenham area for 5 years, there was a Winnie every couple of minutes doing something
that made me question how they got their licence. The 'Winnie' that lived next door to me when I lived in Romford
finally passed her AUTOMATIC driving test after 7 attempts. Shocked It was 3 days until her first prang.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikes can be replaced. You cant Karma
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Putting your indicator on doesn't give her priority I'm afraid, just the way of life. Most numptys that live around here drive c/s-max, corsas or they wee bubble shaped 500s - most of the time in light blue.

If she was in the wrong lane then her fault simple as that.
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

delsol wrote:
Just seen the Baby on Board sign.

I have total contempt for people sporting those signs, what they are really saying is "you do the observations and keep a look out for me".


I always take it as though they're saying "Don't crash into me, because baby" Like I'm supposed to think "oh, okay. I was planning to crash into you but, now I've seen that you have a baby in your car, I won't. Rolling Eyes

OP. Glad you're pretty much okay. Shame about the bike though. Sad

Also, the indicator thing is one of my pet hates. If they are only going to put it on when they turn, why bother? It's there to indicate your intention, not to signal what you are actually doing, because strangely enough, we can see your vehicle is turning without it.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch, bike looks fixable. do it Thumbs Up

Ive been in similar sounding situations before (which may be completely different to what you described) was there no space/time to swerve left and out of its path? A van done this to me but I was level with passenger window - punching it, he continued to move over Shocked If I slowed, I would have been squashed into a HGV. So instead I went lane splitting. I may have broke a few rules but somone had just tried to kill me Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you're ok. Poor Bimmer.

Why has Paddy not made you an offer for it yet?
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike is surely fixable but I'll have to see if I get offered the salvage. Parts are ££ though.

Who else on here has a R1100S?
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Bike is surely fixable but I'll have to see if I get offered the salvage. Parts are ££ though.

Who else on here has a R1100S?


I see a boxer cup rep coming (with turbo). Wink
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

No turbo on this engine. Big pistons, long(ish) stroke = bad juju for turbo.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

delsol wrote:
Just seen the Baby on Board sign.

I have total contempt for people sporting those signs, what they are really saying is "you do the observations and keep a look out for me".

What they actually mean is: "In the event that you find me trapped in this burning vehicle, ignore me and expose yourself to risk while you search for the probably non-existent baby that I've told you is in it", although most of the cretins that use them have no idea that's what they're saying.

Best of luck with sorting it out. For a wonder, the car does appear to be legit.

This is why I have a Drift Stealth 2 being delivered tomorrow. Last day before I retire from the Force...
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
No turbo on this engine. Big pistons, long(ish) stroke = bad juju for turbo.


Just turn it into one of these then.

https://specials.bmw-motorrad.com/com/_common/img/fascination/vis_boxercup2004_home_02.jpg

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PostPosted: 22:02 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't see many 'Winnies' without at least a few kids in tow.
Even back in the motherland when they are starving and have aidsbola they still somehow keep on popping 'em out.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Re: Dozy bird ties to wipe me out on the A2 Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
She said "I have my baby in the car"

Yup, that woud've hit a nerve alright, taken me over the top if I wasn't over the top already. She's just knocked you off with her carelessness, and that statement is a blatant attempt to divert responsibility from herself and on to you - "you could have hurt my child!!22" - or even "don't worry about the damage I've just done to you or your poxy bike, my baby is more important". Madenning. I have met women before who have claimed similar, but those previous experiences never seem to dull the disgust I feel when I see or hear women put forward this kind of 'argument tactic'.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smiler was right, this would not have happened if you were hogging lane 2!!!

Sorry to hear about your accident, I am very glad you are ok.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajag wrote:
Smiler was right, this would not have happened if you were hogging lane 2!!!


Oh man, I was waiting for that Very Happy

I've been working late the last 2 weeks and getting home about half past 9 but today I was back on normal hours and so pleased to be getting home for a reasonable dinner time I was chilling along in lane 1 quite happy to hold station in heavy traffic and what happens - I manage to crash into a lane-changer.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Re: Dozy bird ties to wipe me out on the A2 Reply with quote

covent.gardens wrote:
Pete. wrote:
She said "I have my baby in the car"

Yup, that woud've hit a nerve alright, taken me over the top if I wasn't over the top already. She's just knocked you off with her carelessness, and that statement is a blatant attempt to divert responsibility from herself and on to you - "you could have hurt my child!!22" - or even "don't worry about the damage I've just done to you or your poxy bike, my baby is more important". Madenning. I have met women before who have claimed similar, but those previous experiences never seem to dull the disgust I feel when I see or hear women put forward this kind of 'argument tactic'.


My response would have been "yeh, I've got a baby at home looking forward to seeing her daddy"
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 25 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
ajag wrote:
Smiler was right, this would not have happened if you were hogging lane 2!!!


Oh man, I was waiting for that Very Happy

I've been working late the last 2 weeks and getting home about half past 9 but today I was back on normal hours and so pleased to be getting home for a reasonable dinner time I was chilling along in lane 1 quite happy to hold station in heavy traffic and what happens - I manage to crash into a lane-changer.


Plus the fact that there is no accounting for the Winnie.

I think this could catch on.
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