Little bruv wants a ped.

[grr666]

Quick background story, wifes little bruv is what you might call 'less than fully motivated' at school. He's just done
his GCSEs and a year ago I promised him if he got the 3 Bs he needs to get into college I would buy him
a moped after he turns 16 (This wednesday) and gets his exam results (next month) Then, after his CBT is
done, I'll take him out and give him a few on road supervised rides with me before I hand him over the keys
and send him on his way alone with it.

It does comes with conditions though,
1. He pays for his own CBT, but at a school of my choosing.
2. he doesn't modify its engine/exhaust.
3. he doesn't ever ride it without L plates or carry passengers.
4. he always wears a reasonable amount of kit.
5. he doesn't let his lairy younger brother ride it until he's old enough to and has done his own CBT etc
(in the interest of fairness, I will have to repeat this gesture in about 2 years time when potatofaced youngest
bruv does his GCSEs, he's even more of a slacker than this one is so seeing his older bro hit paydirt may
make him pull his socks up over the next couple of years, we live in hope.)
6. Any dicking about on it that lands him in trouble with the law and I take it back and sell it to someone who appreciates it.

For some reason he listens to me where the same message from his parents would fall on deaf ears.
Anyway, he's knuckled down a bit and been doing his homework etc and it looks like he's on his way to
getting the grades he wants. This means I'm likely to be moped shopping soon.
I had a look last night and thought the Peugeot V clic was a good bet, underseat storage, disc brake and
if I'm getting this right a 4 stroke so no sodding about with oil/petrol mix also shouldn't be as buzzy, noisy
and smokey as a 2 stroke.
But if I'm honest I wouldn't know what the preferred 50cc runaround is these days.

Any help would be great.
Cheers.
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[Rogerborg]

5 ponds says that he reneges on one, some or all of those conditions within half an hour of his first soLo ride.

V Clic seems very utilitarian, which sounds exactly like what you're after. You going new, or pre-abused?
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[wr6133]

I own a vclic.

First, it's Chinese (Qingqi made), bog standard Chinese GY6 clone with pug badges stuck on. Quality is not bad though but I think Baotian's are better.

Ridiculously low powered in standard format, even "derestricted" you won't get much beyond 31MPH and if the lad weighs much it will crawl on hills (this applies to most 4T peds). I shoved an 80cc kit on mine..... it makes it safer.

Underseat storage is good for shopping but won't fit a full face lid.

He won't carry pillions on it at least in stock format, not enough power.

Does so many MPG in stock format he'll forget what a petrol pump is. Even with a bore kit on the MPG is high.

They slide down the road really well.

Stock tyres are horrendous, may as well be carved from wood.

Exhausts rot through, crap quality steel. Replacements can be cheap though.

It's a very small ped, I'm 6'1" and look like an elephant fucking a unicycle, if he is lanky you may want to reconsider.

I bought mine for the wife to play about on but have been using it a lot myself. It was cheap and it's not bad. Parts/modding them is pocket change cheap too. He could do worse for a first ped.

[andyscooter]

v clic also badged as a pulse scout

how much are you thinking of paying

second had piaggio zips can be bought for cheap as can Yamaha aerox;s
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[P.addy]

Afraid I'm going to have to say that it needs derestricting, I'm using a Jog R daily now, its 50cc, its horribly slow and thats with the washer out of the variator. Its capable of a real world 38mph flat out which is dire but I do weigh 13.5 stone.

I feel vulnerable on it, a 16 year old invincible-life-forever-teenager-syndrome will be vulnerable.

[grr666]

Maybe that's something I can do before he takes it home, it will live at mine until I'm happy with his riding
enough to send him away on it. He can come over for lessons in the meantime.
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Here he is after his first ever time on a motorbike as my pillion.
He took to it surprisingly well.

https://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz250/grrthefearless/Brisky%20shots/IMAG0425_zpsstmuiefs.jpg
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[P.addy]

FWIW I have the GPS from my Jog R, I'll upload it later if I don't forget but I've had 5mph up a hill. Possibly could do with a decent service anyway but its dangerous... far too slow for UK roads.

[chris-red]

Buy him/get him to buy a kevlar hoodie.

The best protective gear is the stuff you ACTUALLY wear. He'll be more likely to wear that than a gimpy textile jacket or a heavy hot leather jacket.
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[Ste]

If people riding a 50cc ped feel vulnerable then they're either riding on inappropriate roads and or their road positioning is shit

As good on paper as those conditions of ped purchase and usage are, as a 16 year old your kid brother knows far more about the world than you do and so will easily be able to come up with reasons why your rules and stupid.

1. #toocoolforschoolracing
2. It's not modified it's been serviced and tuned, don't you know anything?
3. They were there when I set off, must have fallen off.
4. This is a reasonable amount of kit, you just don't understand.
5. Little brah isn't lairy and I'm not responsible for what he does, it's not my fault he took it for a ride.
6. Yeah well, the cops had it out for me, they were being right dickheads so you can't expect me to be nice to them, I'm not gonna respect them if they're rude to me!

Safe yeah.

[chris-red]

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[grr666]

I've already pointed other relatives toward kevlar jeans and hoodie for him as birthday presents. As well
as that I bought him this pair of 'cool' A stars summer gloves for him with monster energy blah blahs on them.
exactly like these,
https://www.getgeared.co.uk/alpinestars-monster-gloves-obsidian-black-green

but here's the original auction ad.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/alpinestars-gloves-/301677455346?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=RPklkKbF8y9Em0mltC%252FNdPoon20%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Effin bargain. I also have a fairly wide range of gear in stock myself so can probably kit him out from
my own stash as it were. I'm always buying bike gear. Amongst other things I've currently got some
Belstaff Stormshield armoured textile trousers in his size, a 2 piece set of FT kangaroo leathers,
a nice brand new vented Richa leather Jacket, also some brand new plain black richa leather trousers,
we can go lid shopping if he gets the 3 or more Bs.
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[Polarbear]

I would agree with taking the washer out of the variator. I doesn't make a huge difference (didn't on my daughters DNA) but those few mph made a keeping up with the traffic flow that much easier.
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As a parent, of teens, I am beginning to despair for the future...
When I was a teenager, before the Berlin Wall came down, living under the threat of Nuclear Holocaust, we were watching "War-Games", "Terminator", Mad-Max" and "Risky Business" & "Ferris Beuller's Day off"....
What are they watching now? U-Tube clips of things recorded on smart-phones of other kids falling off skateboards and cats.. on smart-phones....
My daughter threw a 'leavers' burn the Blazer BBQ a couple of weeks ago.... I have to admit was shitting myself a little bit... I remember My 'Leaver Night'.... BOY do I remember our 'Leavers Night'.. Walking through town with a 5' blond, with 3' of punky hair, who walked up to every-one on the street pretending to be Sweedish and asking to practice her 'English'... the party in the park, and the arguments over what tape ought to be put on Jasons 'Ghetto-Blaster' and the argument when the Geriatric park-keeper stuck an air-rifle out of the parkies hut window and threatened to shoot me if we didn't 'bugger off'.. And another BBQ my mates big-brother held, one week-end when his parents were away, that we sort of gate crashed... well.. we got picked up on the street at 2am and they sort of taking us 'home'... and naked school-girls falling out of first floor windows while the cops were knocking on the door, lads chucking crates of poppers over the neighbors fence.. and half naked 17 y/o big-bruv trying to stop the cops coming in, whilst trying very hard not to commit GBH on either of us!..... So I was a LITTLE bit concerned about having a dozen teenagers in the garden.. with a FIRE...
All evening I was worried, imagining what I would have been getting up to... But like I say, I am beginning to despair for the future.. if the breakdown in civilisation as we know it comes? sod economic melt-down, or nuclear devestation, the ice-caps melting, running out of oil, or a killer zombie virus.... NO! I reckon it will come when there is a glitch in the 8G Mobile network and no-one can find a pre-made 'ap' to fix it.... I got home to find a dozen Zombies (rather soggy Zombies, as it happens) in my back garden, with ghoulish under-chin lit faces all staring intently at fucking smart-phones.. at a PARTY... so the end of civilisation.. the mobile network will go down and they will all be LEFT zombies, staring at thier smart-phones, NOT being told what to do... so they'll just KEEP standing there..

So, I would say, that your best bet to make his cool, is to add a smart-phone holder... and write and 'ap' with your 'rules' in it.. cos they'll do anything a smart-phone tells'em, it seems!
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[mattyfattyboo...]

Personally I'd go for a 2 stroke. I know you've got the increased risk of it going pop and the oil topping up but with just 50cc I wouldnt fancy a 4 stroke.

I had this back in 2005 as my first set of wheels
https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/matt1chelski/Old%20Bike%20Pictures/Bike1.jpg

Run it standard for about 4 months then wacked the limiter out of it for a extra 12mph. I done miles on it, never felt 'venerable' on it tbh.

I'd look for a looked after used bike, newer shape of my old one'

Suzuki AY50
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-Katana-AY-50-Liquid-Cooled-Scooter-/171848178685?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2802f31bfd

Or a Piaggio NRG
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-PIAGGIO-NRG-50cc-SCOOTER-ONLY-12-391-MILES-FULL-MOT-/331595896529?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d34a7d6d1

Yamaha Aerox
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-AEROX-ROSSI-REPLICA-50cc-/301680189787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item463d8a615b

I'd have said a Gilera Runner or Piaggio Typhoon but finding a clean one of them would be tough I think.

[S1417]

I had a 50 when I was 16 and it was fine on all the roads round my way for getting to school each day and going round to friends houses. Granted I live in an almost completely flat area and made up entirely of 30 and 20 zones between my house, friends houses and college.

For what it's worth I had a Vision 50 and it seemed reasonably good quality (apart from the rusty exhaust) with decent brakes and reasonable handling. They seem to come up fairly well priced as well

[WetAndCold]

Why not be a really good 'big bro' and get him an aprilia rs50?

Bet he'd love that more!
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