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PostPosted: 20:42 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: that wasn't fun at all :( Reply with quote

After the gpz5 running perfectly for 2 whole days, post clearances and new pilot jets and a fuel filter, it died on me.

Out of nowhere, all was well with plenty of oomph, I gave it a quarter or so throttle up to 8k rpm when it lost that oomph and I heard a horrendous whining sound. Looking down to find the source of it the engine stopped and the rear wheel locked. Scared the bejebus out of me but got the clutch in asap. This all happened within about 2 seconds or so but at 40/50mph it happens so flipping quickly.

Alas. Rac mechanic arrived despite me telling the call answererer it was not going to start..only for him to try and then call out a truck. 3 hours to get lifted 8 miles..

Sad day for the gpz
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

i guess they get so many people saying their vehicle is completely dead only to jump start on arrival.. Last time i had to call the head gasket went on my MR2 but fortunately you can just tow cars :p

hope you get the gpz sorted and well done avoiding a crash Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuel pump does not cause an engine to seize. Will it turn over at all?
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Won't turn over at all. Even with the rac mans booster pack thingy. It clicks, I can here the starter giving its all but it simply won't go. Not even a single cranking noise.

Suspect maybe top end seized..or potentially those pesky magnets disintegrating but won't know for sure until I take the time to break it down. If not that maybe cam chain gave up the ghost.

It's really disheartening Sad I've spent the best part of the last 2 months getting it running how I wanted and it was sublime the last 2 days. So much quieter, pick up was fantastic off the line all the way to the red. Valve clearances were done, Color tune confirmed mixture was right, carbs were balanced and all cleaned out and old jets replaced, new fuel lines and filter, new cables here n there, new tyres, chain and sprockets, new ht lead and plug caps and plugs, loads of new oil and oil filters in the last 1000 miles, must have been 3 or 4 changes, new air filter and a lot of time spent getting it done
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't surprised by the rac sending the mech. Standard protocol given the chance it could just be something easy, but I couldn't stress it enough lol

Best part was as the mech signed off and drove away the trailer pulled up. I then got a call from them telling me It would be another hour.. clearly on the ball haha
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rang recovery and told them my wheel bearing kersploded, I said unless the dude has a 6202 bearing it can't be fixed, they said ok we will send someone out, guy turns up says whats the problem. oh i can't fix that Ill get a truck out Confused
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PostPosted: 06:52 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was fine until the RAC man tried to jump it? Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 07:19 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, I have the KLE500 and my bike has done exactly the same thing in the past, riding fine then suddenly locking the rear wheel. In my case the gearbox quit, something broke inside and flew around in the gearbox smashing into other stuff until the gears were jammed. Shocked

I have like, three Kawasaki 500 parallel twin engines spare now.
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PostPosted: 07:22 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Mc wrote:
It was fine until the RAC man tried to jump it? Twisted Evil

I fail to see what you are getting at. By my reckoning it was broken at the point it packed up on the OP whilst he was riding it.
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PostPosted: 07:50 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a bit of a shitter mate. Hope you get it sorted. As said previously well done for avoiding an accident.
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PostPosted: 08:00 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAC can claim they responded in an hour this way, despite the fact it's more like four hours. They've insisted to me they don't do this on the phone when I gave them poor results in the satisfaction survey. Lies.
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

@jon the problem is needing to spend more money on it than i have already :/ so it may be off the road for a little while as i need a reliable daily. Throwing another few hundred quid at it would probably solve things providing nothing integral is mashed...but for how long?

I really liked this bike too, even if it does have a pink stripe Laughing


KLE500. That looks fun! Assume its the same engine with a lower CR?

I looked at a few er500's last night for a temp measure but they're just not the same.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
RAC can claim they responded in an hour this way, despite the fact it's more like four hours. They've insisted to me they don't do this on the phone when I gave them poor results in the satisfaction survey. Lies.


there are many people who, a spot of steam from under the bonnet will tell the breakdown company it's gone up in smoke and the engine has exploded.

Patrol comes out, tops up the radiator and done = breakdown solved cheapest way to keep your 'membership' fee down

of course, this also means they turn up to find my mate handing him a bit of piston and saying "it's knackered, I told them that" and calling the rescue wagon.

My first car had no way of fixing a tow-pole and I told them that both on joining and on call out, they came with a dolly
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sucks, reminds of a few years ago, me and a mate rebuilding a flat four vw lump, from the block up. On a tight tight budget, calling favours from dad's mates and spending hours climbing around scrap yards. Got it running sweet, 50miles into the run-in just pulling off the M1 onto a inclined slip road and twackt!! from the engine bay, red generator light flicks on - fanbelt snapped I couldnt lift off the juice or even dip the clutch because of the traffic behind me, by the time id got to the top I was running a lump of redhot jelly, by the time the RAC turned up it'd cooled into a solid lump of 3 months work down the pan... Strip Down rebuild repeat.. it's a bind and a ball ache and the kind of wall we either break through or sell the tool box and buy reasonable priced car, I feel for you. I was looking at a early '90's GPZ 500 t'other day on evil bay sweeeeeet. Booked marked it, looked outside saw a 45 year old vw bus rolling project and a 50 year old boat and promptly brought a reasonably priced k1 bandit with proven 10k on the clocks Smile hope you get the gpz spinning again soon - it's interesting doing the analysis though, turns out on my rebuild and repeat on the vw was due to one of the pully wheel spacers had a burred edge due to kicking around a mates workshop as a vice buffer for years plus I'd used a late belt which sat lower in the pully causing the burr to fray the belt - simple snap and melt the f@#%in engine jobo. Good luck anyways, I think you got the best weather out of it though :thumbsup:
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattEMulsion wrote:
Jim Mc wrote:
It was fine until the RAC man tried to jump it? Twisted Evil

I fail to see what you are getting at. By my reckoning it was broken at the point it packed up on the OP whilst he was riding it.


Are you sure? This says otherwise.
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 08 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always had a soft spot for old beetles but never had the bottle to go out and buy one.

Kaya75 wrote:
I feel for you. I was looking at a early '90's GPZ 500 t'other day on evil bay sweeeeeet. Booked marked it, looked outside saw a 45 year old vw bus rolling project and a 50 year old boat and promptly brought a reasonably priced k1 bandit with proven 10k on the clocks Smile


is pretty much what i should be doing Laughing instead i've decided i like the bike too much and have spent a bit on it already so would be a shame to swap now. I'l have a look at what caused it and if not terminal i'l remove/replace. Otherwise its getting a new engine with the cct and flywheel issue sorted

"Hopefully" i can get it sorted sharpish. I hate driving the car.
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PostPosted: 07:03 - 09 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for it, these things make them much more ours, and if we did what we "should". We'd probably all be driving reasonably priced cars with shiny new cats on them.. Iblame the petrol fumes they put stuff in it to make it addictive!! Goodluck anyway, hopefully it'll be a straight forward fix. I was saying lastnight I really don't think I could go back to commuting in a car, it's basically stop start stop start all the way to work, I can either filter or take the long way round and have fun - I never had fun communiting in the car, just made me even more pi@@ed I was going to work on the bike I get to work awake and smiling even if I'm frozen and wet, and the first dawns of summer are truly inspiring, midwinter just makes the first coffee sooooo much better - may the spanners be smiling for you! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 09 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had something similar to that happen to me once: way back when I was a noob.
Turned out it was a broken piston.
Who knew.

Suffice to say, 19 years on, my knowledge is such that I still wouldn't know if I did it again. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 09 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaya75 wrote:
I was saying lastnight I really don't think I could go back to commuting in a car, it's basically stop start stop start all the way to work, I can either filter or take the long way round and have fun - I never had fun communiting in the car, just made me even more pi@@ed I was going to work on the bike I get to work awake and smiling even if I'm frozen and wet, and the first dawns of summer are truly inspiring, midwinter just makes the first coffee sooooo much better - may the spanners be smiling for you! Thumbs Up


Truth. I've spent 4.5 hours in the car in the last 2 days due to traffic. Its a 7 mile journey!! Sad Its at a point where i'd rather bankrupt myself trying to fix an old bike that have to use the car to commute.

The first week without a bike is a sad one
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

shit one Sad


also had rac send me a van... for a rear tyre blowout.... what was he gonna do on the hard shoulder? they really ought to pay more attention
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