Bikesafe & Trackday Noob Question...

[HughiusMaximu...]

Evening gents,

Im booked in for the bifesafe police observed ride & tracktime tomorrow at Castle Coombe, and was wondering if there is any risk of getting done for anything on the observed ride.

Obviously I have no intention of doing anything stupid but am wary of have police tailing me for a hour!
Id also guess they realise that you are doing it to learn so are less likely to pull you up for any mistakes?...

[CaNsA]

[Ste]

Show 'em your wheelie skillz and see if your bike is faster than theirs.

[HughiusMaximu...]

[talkToTheHat]

The police rider observing you will likely point out that they consider numbered limits, especially 30s a hard limits, and that they are allowed to break the NSL for training purposes. They will likely also point out that they are not going to book you for road offences, but that will not protect you from speed cameras or traffic police if you ride like a twat.

I did my bikesafe out of sheffiled and the limiting factor on my speed was leaving the harley rider I'd been paired with behind. I note that some of the other pairs that went out had ridden quite briskly.
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[esullivan]

[talkToTheHat]

My bikesafe writeup: https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=291597

I should note on my ERS which is a DSA syllabus I got top marks for use of speed and may have been riding to the conditions in the NSL, which may have included the cruising speed of your typical german saloon on the motorway section.
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[Rogerborg]

Synopsis: they're "police" bikers because they're bikers who wanted a license to ride like utter stunts and get away with it.

Emulate their example.
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[gorillaonabik...]

They tell you to ride as you normally do but the recommendation is to tone it down a bit.

Back in the days when it was free, there was one complete muppet who was riding around at 130mph (to him, this was toning it down...) but to be fair, they didn't nick him. He was helped by the fact they were expecting an undercover journalist and thought he was it.

Still didn't give him the certificate, though...
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[-Matt-]

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4148870#4148870

TL;DR - Don't completely take the piss and they probably won't be too fussed about speed limits being exceeded here and there.

They seem more concerned about improving riding technique based on your usual riding on these days than ranting about speed. Obviously though, if you go hurtling through a 30 zone at 100mph on the back wheel; they might stop the assessment .

[HughiusMaximu...]

Thanks guys.

I expected these answers but good to have it confirmed. ?.

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Speed it's self wasn't an issue for mine - providing you were doing it 'safely' - personally the policeman's riding (as opposed to his talking) I considered ruder than I'd normally do - though I would typically have filtered more 'assertively' than we did on the day.

I think you'd have to do something really REALLY stupid for them to actually try and bust you - it'd look pretty bad on them if they did.

The cop I was with was fine behind me at low triple figure (cue confused looks from other road users ).
But then he did do 75 in a 50 (despite saying they stick to the 50s) and managed to go around the right hand side of a car on a blind bend.

[HughiusMaximu...]

It was a very good experience.

Two major learnings:
I'm not keeping the revvs high enough when cornering so the bike isnt as planted as it could be.
When following it was interesting to see just how early he took up position for bends. I was ending up in the same place but doing it later.

Track session was a good laugh as well!

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