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Tracer1234
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: New Smoking Law, Thoughts? Reply with quote

What are peoples thoughts on the new changes to the smoking law.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/new-rules-about-tobacco-e-cigarettes-and-smoking-1-october-2015/new-rules-about-tobacco-e-cigarettes-and-smoking-1-october-2015

gets a Thumbs Up from me.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: New Smoking Law, Thoughts? Reply with quote

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From 1 October 2015 it will be illegal:

for retailers to sell electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes) or e-liquids to someone under 18


99% of decent retailers refuse to sell to under 18's, only scummy market traders will.

Still good though.

With regards to ciggies, it isnt all that nice when riding along and you get a big whiff of fag smoke or spliff.
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

So from what I can work out.....

If you are 17 and solo in your vehicle you can smoke freely.
If you are 17 and have a friend, and are both smoking in your private vehicle then it becomes illegal?
Because it will be illegal to smoke in a multi occupied vehicle if anyone is aged under 18.

I gave up smoking in 2004. Bizarrely I don't mind getting a lungful of passing smoke. I don't miss the stench on clothes, everything else etc.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't bother me cos I gave up 2 years ago and I ride a bike Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, because the current laws on smoking in commercial vehicles have been so rigorously enforced. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd never smoke in a car with a non-smoker, regardless of age, and never did before any smoking laws. It's a sad day when we need a law to tell us it's a pretty disgusting and inconsiderate thing to do.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nexus Icon wrote:
I'd never smoke in a car with a non-smoker, regardless of age, and never did before any smoking laws. It's a sad day when we need a law to tell us it's a pretty disgusting and inconsiderate thing to do.


The idea of the law in general is to force the scum to behave like decent people automatically behave.
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I can't smoke, but can still let eggy hummers rip when children are present in the car. Cool.
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Right, because the current laws on smoking in commercial vehicles have been so rigorously enforced. Rolling Eyes

It's right up there with using a mobile without a handsfree kit while driving.
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 16 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illegal:
Arrow for a person of any age to smoke in a private vehicle that is carrying someone who is under 18

Arrow for a driver (including a provisional driver) not to stop someone smoking in these circumstances

Does private mean work or personal? So if someone is driving their daughter home from school and chooses to smoke in their own car, any other driver who witnesses this is obliged by law to stop them? Please tell me i'm just having a spaz attack and woefully misinterpreted this.

If not, those dickhead sherriff of the road motovloggers are gonna have a field day.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 16 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hefty wrote:
So if someone is driving their daughter home from school and chooses to smoke in their own car, any other driver who witnesses this is obliged by law to stop them?

No, it means that drivers are obligated to stop anyone smoking in the car that they're driving. I'm not entirely sure how holding the wheel confers any particular superpower to do so - perhaps it's like a ship captain. Can I also perform marriages? Hang mutineers? Thinking


hedgehugger wrote:
If you are 17 and solo in your vehicle you can smoke freely.
If you are 17 and have a friend, and are both smoking in your private vehicle then it becomes illegal?

Either of you. Regardless of the age of the friend.

A 17 year old sole driver can smoke.
A 71 year old sole driver can smoke.
If both of them are in the same car, then neither can smoke.

Unless it's an e-cigarette. Of course, if you do get tugged for that because Dibble thinks its real then you'll just get done for 'not in control' anyway so that they don't have to admit to poor obs.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 16 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

No, it means that drivers are obligated to stop anyone smoking in the car that they're driving.


Gotcha, cheers for clearing that up Thumbs Up

Though I wonder why they dont just make smoking in any vehicle illegal and be done with it? It is an 'enclosed space' after all.. and a bit of a fire hazard IIRC.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 16 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hefty wrote:
Though I wonder why they dont just make smoking in any vehicle illegal and be done with it? It is an 'enclosed space' after all.. and a bit of a fire hazard IIRC.


Sales of convertibles would, pardon the pun, go through the roof. Razz
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PostPosted: 02:04 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nexus Icon wrote:
I'd never smoke in a car with a non-smoker, regardless of age, and never did before any smoking laws. It's a sad day when we need a law to tell us it's a pretty disgusting and inconsiderate thing to do.


My car, my rules, people are free to walk in the rain instead of me giving them a lift if they so wish.
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hefty wrote:
Though I wonder why they dont just make smoking in any vehicle illegal and be done with it?

"It's pretty warm," said the frog, "but I can get used to it."

kernow24 wrote:
My car, my rules

Turns out, not so much.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gran (rip) used to smoke

She lived in a council house and got told she couldn't smoke in the house on the day if someone was coming to mend somthing

Her reply was ace

But in printable
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a non smoker, I allow friends who are smokers to smoke in my car providing they open a window.

Same goes for my flat.

must be a bloody liberal.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid rule, but I mean that purely from the enforcement point of view.

They can't enforce the phone rule at the moment so what chance this.

It says this does not apply to e-cigarettes. Some e-cigarettes look just like ordinary fags from a distance.

Back seats of cars with blacked windows.

Totally unenforceable. Thumbs Down
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