Retro Moped Build

Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

Hey all so in short story i was planning to do my CBT after christmas time as i thought i wouldn't have the funds until then for a moped but managed to pick up 2 Honda Express's NC50's so il be doing my cbt as soon as this is finished and ready for road

1 Is Blue (light blue not sure of the name though lol) 1978 year seat is slit,some rust on wheel spokes,front headlight casing smashed. this one is missing headlight,airfilter and cables are siezed on it.

2nd one is Red (Dark red at moment but little faded) 1980 year. this one is in really nice condition with no rust i can see. been under a cover in a garage since 1984. this one is missing cylinder head,barrel,has broken rear R/H indicator, no foot pegs

my plans the now are to swap the cylinder head,barrel and foot pegs over from blue to red and see if its running. then planning once its running to just clean up good and try to get the red back to the original colour (shiny red) not sure what il use though ?

I'll add some pictures once i get them as blue one is local to me (Scotland) but guy isn't delivering it until this weekend. and red one is being collected by a courier as its in Reading in london. (should have it by next wednesday at latest)

got both v5's for both too which is a bonus i think Smile

want to keep the red one as original as possible not sure if its got its original stickers as owner has the leg shield on top instead of underneath frame but il find out when it arrives

blue one my plans once i take the parts off i need (and will fit) i planning to strip the rest to sell as the rest of engine is no good for the 80 as its different according to ebay anyways and its too old for indicators so nothing else really to use as red one is is really nice just needing engine work which is a walk in the park Smile

if you have any tips about getting the red back to original colour let me know as not sure if t cut would work ?

i plan to put the Red one on the road and drive it once its finished. im only 20 years old but love the vintage mopeds as my mums partner has one plus the modern scooters/mopeds are far too heavy for me to move around reason i went with a older one as well Smile

i was buying a nc50 before that i posted up for a project but ended up cancelling it as it was too badly rusted in the end.

delsol · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Karma :

Righty, we will wait for the pics then.

Then regular and frequent updates (with more pics).

And no slacking.

Good luck, good project and good to see a 20 year old appreciating older bikes, be a great learning curve for you, enjoy.

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bypass2 · Spanner Monkey Joined: 12 Sep 2013 Karma :

Honda Express are they the ones you kick a few times then pull the back brake lever in then it starts up.Try Tcut first might do it. Good luck with them.

Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

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Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

il add the ebay pictures of the red one for now. not got pictures of blue yet Wink

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bypass2 · Spanner Monkey Joined: 12 Sep 2013 Karma :

the red express looks a good project it should clean up well. bsa ariel 3 I think they came out in about 1969/70 approx is it a runner

Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

bypass2 · Spanner Monkey Joined: 12 Sep 2013 Karma :

The chrome looks good on the express

Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

anyone know a idea to straighten out a number plate (one on the red one) just its bent in the corners by looks of it not sure if it would break if it was to be put in a vice or would i have to heat it?

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Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

little update going to pick up the blue nc50 tonight so il snap some pictures either tonight if its still light when i get back or tomorrow as il be starting dismantling tomorrow Smile

anyone know if the cylinder head and barrel on these would come up to a high polish shine (outside and inside) just was planning to put my dremil on it just curious as i done it with a quad head and barrel 3 years back and it worked but not sure with these

Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

Got the Blue one tonight.

was using as spares and its the only thing il be doing

tyres are shot

no exhaust (going to have to source one as not got one on either bike)

rusty frame but good frame for someone whoever buys it (will be up on ebay tomorrow)

last on road 1981 so been off road a while

planning to see what wheels are best once my other one arrives on tuesday but il probably be selling the blue ones wheels and frame to pay for my parts i need for red one as not sure if il be able to use much off blue one apart from the barrel and head which il need to take off tomorrow and have a look at.

il snap some pictures tomorrow afternoon as got a garage to clear out in morning.

Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

Got Some Pictures to let you see but will get more tomorrow when its light.

if your wondering why number plate is painted out i do it all the time with my bikes. bike had v5 incase anyone is wondering about not having ignition etc lol

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delsol · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Karma :

Looks like a relatively easy restore project to the metal work, not too many nooks and cranny's to de-rust.

I would waxoyl inject all the internal hollow sections, and not worry about rust coming through from the inside.

Time to get stuck in mate Smile

lets see how it goes.

Wouldn't mind a little project like that myself, I'm looking around for a winter pastime but cannot decide (have not come across) a viable bike yet.

Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

got most of the blue one apart and majority of the parts im not needing put up for sale

planning to take engine out tomorrow and il try get it apart too see whats it like. im assuming everything is locked up on it as it won't engage and the flywheel is rusted like crazy. will snap some pictures again tomorrow

should be ready for my red express arriving this week hopefully should be here tuesday.

Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

Red Express Has Been Collected This Morning Smile

courier may be delivering it tonight if not will be tomorrow morning

blue bike is completely stripped down.

Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

hey guys red express is being delivered tonight between 8 and half 8 not bad picked up this morning and delivered same day after a 400 mile trip Very Happy

Maxi04 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 31 May 2015 Karma :

hey guys well the express has landed Very Happy

but its not red :p its actually in v5 as orange lol

anyways its in a lot better condition than i thought frame is rust free same with handlebars. front wheel is more or less rust free. rear wheel has some spots of rust but i think it will clean with Brasso.

overall im pleased with it and it won't take a awful lot of work to get it going and on road.

previous owner has looked after it well drained fuel before putting it in storage, and even though it is missing barrel and head has put paper towel down engine to prevent anything going inside.

planning to wash it up tomorrow and il then focus on getting the barrel clean up and same with head of other engine and put it on this.

here are pictures...... Very Happy

https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h348/motocrossguy17/NC50/photo%203_zpsqmjha2mh.jpg

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i got the old style v5 for it. unforunately i have no clue about filling it in. the owner on v5 was the seller who sold bike to guy i bought it from (never filled it in as it would owners on it) anyhow the owner on it i assume is now deceased as the guy i bought this from is 89. i am wondering how i fill it out as want to register it in my name and also get the new style v5 for it

Thanks Smile

hazza · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Karma :

Great bikes. I had 3 NC50's with the ratchet starting mechanism, I think your red one is the NA50. Make sure the tank hasn't rusted through, It's a common problem and you end up with an oil tank full of petrol. A few people have done the hack and weld of an expansion chamber on them but the limiting factor is that you can't change the gearing so 40 is about as much as you can get before you grenade it. I get more fun out of mopeds than motorbikes these days. It's great getting something that was only designed to do 25mph up to 35mph. I also ride around with a smile on my face which is more than I can say about my commute on my 900!

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