New rider looking for some advice :-)

[Haggee]

Little bit about me before i ask questions that have probally been asked an answerd hundreds of times.

Im 30 years old Got CBT Cert in July this year First time ever riding anything on a road, Bought A new Honda CBR125r 2015 End of july and have done a total of about 14 miles on it since purchase mostly in the lane at rear of my street just to get used to it ,Ihave taken it out on very quiet streets around my local area about 3 times without any issues.

Attempted to take it out at a busier time on main roads solo a couple of times and i guess a bit of panic sets in at each stop, i found my self stalling while trying to set off leading to agrivating other motorists waiting behind me and getting a bit of abuse for it, Honks and one guys verbal abuse out the window of his car.

Dont have any problems on the quiet roads and make an effort to stop and go at each junction for the practice of going from a stop. but as soon as traffic picks up and and im having to think more about traffic awareness the above issue happens would like to say i always make a consious attempt to be in first at a stop.

Any advice to overcome this did any body else have this issue when they first got their cbt and rode solo?

Also another question about how the bike works i guess when in 3rd gear ive always got the throttle on and traveling between 25-30mph.

When practicing in the lane id probally get to about 15-20 mph in second gear and found that when i was releasing the throttle the bike would de accelerate very fast and jerk the bike,ive taken to pulling the clutch in before releasing the throttle so the bike continues to roll smoothly before coming to a stop.

During my CBT i dont recall having to pull the clutch in to continue to roll in higher gears without throttle but dont want to risk trying it at those speeds....Is this normal or is it just due to the fact its a slow speed and low gear in the lane and most of the power is coming from the throttle being applied or should i be consious of a rapid jerky de acceleration from throttleing down in higher gears/speeds aswell and continue to apply the clutch before coming off the throttle.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and any replies or tips would be greatly appreciated
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[zark]

Stalling it when pulling away is a revs vs biting point issue. keep at it... you'll get there. You'll need a fair few revs to get it going. Probably more than a car would, if that's what you're comparing it to. The wet clutch is designed to slip, so let it out gently, while adjusting the revs. Maybe try from stationary - high revs, 2k ish and slow off the clutch to get a better feel for it?
If you do stall pulling away in first - don't panic, and don't faff about with the gears. Assuming you tried to pull away in 1st just clutch in and thumb the starter to get going again. Takes no time at all.

The bike will slow quite quickly on roll-off... again you'll get used to that. Pulling in the clutch is probably not a habit you'll want to get in to. Smooth with all the controls... will come with practice.
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[hedgehugger]

The only way to overcome the butterflies/nerves is to keep on getting out there
So practice. practice, practice.
When I first passed my CBT and got a bike, I would head out to the nearest roundabout (less than a mile away), go round, head home Just to get a feel for the bike.
I would also spend time just stopping and pulling away again, easy to do on a residential street, middle of the day, barely any traffic. Not so fun in the summer holidays with a bunch of gawping kids.

I found it useful to pick an objective, and practice it.
Like the stopping/starting, or hill starts, or smoother gear changes.
It does take time to get used to new stuff, so give yourself a break, you will get it.
Once you've gotten the hang of one thing, you tend not to need to think so much about it the next time.

[RedPanda]

Don't worry about drivers. They have to wait a whole 10 seconds if you stall? Boo-hoo, they'll get over it. You just need time on the bike, I think we all stall in our first couple of weeks.

I'm a bit confused by the second part - you have lots of engine braking? At say 5k RPM, letting go should mean you coast with gentle deceleration on a 125.
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[rubyhorse2]

if your going too slow and in a higher gear then yes the bike will jump about as it will want to stall. My advice is to take things slowly and as you come to each set of lights/junction take the bike down through the gears as you approach.

for setting off, if you are continually stalling, dont be worried about giving it more revs than needed, as long as you let the clutch out nice and slow and controlled you'll be fine. obviously dont give it loads of revs and release the clutch, use the clutch to control your speed.

Practice is the key, trust me once you've been riding a few weeks it will all just be natural and you wont even think about what your doing.

[Andy_Pagin]

Compared to a car you need to keep the revs much higher and in a gear that feels way too low at any given speed, especially on a 125.
Don't be afraid to slip the clutch a lot when pulling away, unlike a car the clutch plates are swapmed in oil so you won't burn them.
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[abrar tariq]

dw it will come by time. nothing happens overnight

[KnightsFall]

In addition to getting used to it yourself, a shiny new bike, with 14 miles on it may need a few more miles to loosen up as well.

[Michelle L]

Like the guys say , relax don,t panic , practice practice practice as Mr hedgehugger says..
Domminate the road , don,t let the car drivers bully you , if they have to wait because you have stalled , then its no big deal , good luck , you will get there in the end , we have all had to start somewhere. ....
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[Haggee]

Thanks for all the motivation/tips guys do plan on keeping at it and sure as the old saying goes practice makes perfect

@Redpanda Yes ive only tried it it at slow speeds 8-12mph in first and second gears and the revs were in the 5k region it feels as tho the break was applied sharply as soon as i begin to roll off the throttle and no coasting occurs.In first for example traveling at 8mph the bike will just jerk and break down to 3mph almost instantly. As ive said havent attempted roll off the throttle without the clutch pulled in at any higher speeds as thats the only way the bike seems to coast without throttle
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[zark]

[Andy_Pagin]

You need to develop a whole new mindest with bikes. On a car the accelerator makes it go faster, the brakes slow it down. On a bike both processes are controlled almost entirely with the throttle. The trick is to keep the revs high and adjust speed purely with the throttle, and don't be afraid to slip the clutch at a walking pace.
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the men in white coats are coming to take me away.
Yamaha Vity -> YBR125 -> FZS600 Fazer -> FZ1-S Fazer

[rubyhorse2]

clutch is your friend, wet clutch so dont be afraid to use to control your speed.