Broadband speeds....

[mentalboy]

After three months cussing what I thought were substandard speeds in the US I've relocated briefly to a deeper darker part of Devon where BT is the only internet option available.

The Beeb says BT says this

An independent broadband checker that I've just used says 3.77 mbps download speed, I've seen faster snails.
Anyone else noticing the dumbing down of bog standard package BT speeds? I'm sure my old Devon address (also non cable/satellite availability and also cheapo BT) was a damn site faster the last time this topic came up BCF!

[kerr]

We have bt, its been cutting out completely for around a year and is slower than a week in the jail, after a stupid amount of phone calls they finally sent an engineer round.
He replaced the router and something else and told the mrs our internet had been cut down by nearly 50%
Utter cunts.
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[N cee thirty]

my speed from bt has taken a hit since i told them to fuck off when they came asking if i wanted to pay extra for infinity, seems abit fucked up paying 70 quid a month for business broadband and then they want another 7 quid to make it faster, just add it in the initial package for the same money, bastards
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[MCN]

Talktalk keep trying to get me to 'upgrade' to fibre.
The speed gets slower as they relentlessly enrol new users but copper capacity is not able to handle the extra traffic.
So if I take the Fibre how long before they overload that?

Then what?

We're doomed.
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[mentalboy]

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The phone line will be the limiting factor. Most routers can display the SNR (Signal to Noise Ration) aka Noise Margin. This needs to be above 9db really for reliable broadband. This is the difference in the actual broadband signal to the background noise on the line.

The other thing to look at is the Line Attenuation. This is the drop of signal strength from the exchange to your router. Anything higher than 55 is not good, 65 is the limit really. The lower the better.

There are a couple of things you can try to improve things a bit at your end, but no matter who you switch your ADSL based broadband to, you'll still be using the same limiting phone line.

Firstly, if you look at the faceplate in the post above, it has a male connector in the back of it. This plugs into the BT test socket. BT Openreach are responsible for the phone line only up until this point. If you have any internal phone extensions/wiring, this should be plugged into the faceplate itself (as in the wires in that photo). Removing the faceplate and putting the router straight into the test socket, removes all of your internal phone wiring around the house and can rule out if that is causing a problem. Try this and see if it makes a difference.

The faceplates can also be replaced with an NTE-5 filtered faceplate like these ones...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=nte5+filtered+faceplate&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=41362155296&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16494972143005276961&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_2r9fk0du4m_e

They have a built in ADSL filter, so have 2 ports, one for ADSL and one for phone. They usually improve line quality and broadband speed by at least 10%, often more. Don't forget that you don't need your inline filter when you have one of these fitted. You plug the cables from the router/phone straight into the relevant socket on the faceplate.

Also, try this at your own risk, on older phone lines there are 2 wires for the "ring circuit" which can be removed as they are no longer needed. I can't remember which colour, so you may have to Google it. Disconnecting these 2 wires from the actual back of the BT socket can reduce noise on the line. These were originally for he old "ring ring" physical bell analogue phones.
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[dydey90]

I would donate a testicle to have my internet speed doubles to what the OP is complaining about.

Worst part is, my mate who lives half a mile down the road just got fibre, all the green boxes near me have stickers on saying "fibre is here" except it isn't.
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[mentalboy]

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[DrSnoosnoo]

[Taught2BCauti...]

Virgin are no better.

After many years of claiming that the majority of their infrastructure was 'high speed fibre', they are being more truthful in their latest ad campaign and finally admitting it was just plain old co-ax all the time.

Calling it 'DocSys3' doesn't actually help - I'm still sharing the bandwidth I am paying for with 30 odd other people in the road, and at peak times, I'm lucky to get 1Mb/sec.

Changing providers won't help in my case, as my street DP is actually spurred off another DP around the corner with copper, and everyone else uses it too.

You can get a rough idea what to expect from broadband, if your provider insists that you have to pay for a 'landline' as well, because that's what your bandwidth is going to be delivered on.
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[dransy]

i lived in bramley and was getting 4.5mb download speed from sky , paying for 20 mb though.

Moved down to wortley near the ring road on virging paying for 100mb and getting 108 on speedtest.net

Amazing coming from 4.5 to 108 ha
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[Baffler186]

my parents are also out in the sticks in Devon, they were getting around 1.8, so I instructed father to phone up and complain; they then said sorry there was an error and he's now getting an almighty 2.8 download
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[oldpink]

it can also depend on how many people are on the same node as you
in London I have a 100mb line
but I do notice fluctuations esp between 4:30 and 11 pm when lots of people are on at home (lots of students)

but in Scotland my 150mb line is pretty constant as its a lot less populated
you can only push so much data down any connection and the further you are from the main exchange the worse it gets
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[mentalboy]

Surely these places mentioned above, especially the new builds, have cable options so that you aren't stuck with just a BT option? We have a choice here - basic BT (whatever it's called ) or 'pay a damn site more' BT.

[angryjonny]

You'd be surprised. I know of new builds that have no Virgin media and have had to wait ages even for BT to install infinity.

OTOH our place is a new build and Virgin Media infrastructure was installed as they built the street. The VM points are installed in the house alongside the BT ones so there's no retrofitting to do. We've never had to darken BT's doorstep.

[Vincent]