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Das68
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Importance of picking the right first bike. Reply with quote

I Passed my test about a year ago (i've always been a car man) , I did my research and brought a lovely 2013 Street Triple ABS.

Over the past year, I have been out on it many times (short trips) but only covered about 300 miles. I haven't managed to gain much confidence, and never felt happy on the bike.

I sold it a couple of weeks ago and was going to give up, but decided to try once more.

I bought a 2010 mk2 CBF1000, the difference is night and day, straight away I felt comfortable and much more confident.

I'm now enjoying the motorcycle, and its put a big smile on my face.

SO if your struglling , don't give up try a different bike. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 21 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picture of the bike or this thread has not happened Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 21 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you feel confident on the bike you did your test on ??

If so get a similar bike build confluence then what ever bike you fancy

Alternatively go back to the training school and get some post test training

At 300 miles since test you to new to even look at bikesafe let alown and Advanced training
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 21 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Passed my test on a Honda Hornet 600 (older one) , which I liked , and is why I brought Street Triple.

Every review says the Street Triple is the Modern Hornet 600 and better.

But I just didn't gel with it.

The CBF1000 is much better , much smoother , not as hard and bouncy on the road, less pressure on my wrists , gives me much more confidence.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 21 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could have been as simple as badly set up suspension.

My current ride felt f**king awful on the 200 mile ride back home. Was totally wooden, couldn't trust it in corners etc. A days worth of fiddling with the suspension, I found out the settings had been set to "hard" front and back. No wonder. A few adjustments and it was a totally different bike.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 21 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Das68 wrote:
less pressure on my wrists .


Interesting.
Your're not the first to complain of wrist problems with this model Street Triple. Motorcycle Ergonomics would suggest more of a slight forward lean compared to the old model.
My mate went from a GSXF to a newer model Triple and he had wrist problems early on. I don't think he made it to 1000 miles before he flogged his.
Glad you found the right bike for you in the end. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 21 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't think people had this whole ' I can't seem to get the hang of this biking thing or feel comfortable on my bike' when they used to ride 250's-500's as a first bike?

Also there's plenty of people on BCF that say your first bike even after passing DAS is really not important at all? But I guess it depends on if you want to learn/improve and ride the bike all the time to rack up road experience and confidence, or if you just want to have a nice piece of kit that you want and looks good/stylish is capable, but the rider isn't or does not want to put in the effort to get good?
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 21 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
I really don't think people had this whole ' I can't seem to get the hang of this biking thing or feel comfortable on my bike' when they used to ride 250's-500's as a first bike?

Also there's plenty of people on BCF that say your first bike even after passing DAS is really not important at all? But I guess it depends on if you want to learn/improve and ride the bike all the time to rack up road experience and confidence, or if you just want to have a nice piece of kit that you want and looks good/stylish is capable, but the rider isn't or does not want to put in the effort to get good?


Hi Stevo, I'm sure your 99% right but also wrong.
I took the bike out many times on back roads short trips every time telling myself, its a great bike and I just need to get used to it.

I didn't like the ride (it wasn't adjustable other than rear preload which I tried on all settings) , riding over a manhole cover rattled my teeth, on a badly made road the bike was twitchy and uncomfortabe.

It didn't matter how careful I was with the throttle, if I throttled off there was a jolt when power was re applied, which I hated mid corner.

The wind blast was awful (this may have been a function of the screen)

I'm a big chap and felt like I was going over the front every time I put the brakes on.

The CBF1000 has solved all these problems and after 1 mile I felt happier than the last 12 months on the Triple.

Engine size has nothing to do with it I find the 998cc easier than the 675
(during my DAS I rode a Bandit 650, Bandit 1250, R1, Faser & Hornet)
I only found the R1 too sensitive / sharp for me to feel at home on. (and that was on day 2 of my DAS at malloy park)
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PostPosted: 02:53 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell of a das, dat. Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
Hell of a das, dat. Shocked


Same as that! Lucky bugga.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

R1 on your das Shocked there was me enjoying a cbf600 Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

STR is notoriously sensitive to suspension settings as Eddie said.

I had mine set up professionally and it was so different you wouldn't believe it.

That said, a CBF1000 is a quite different bike from an STR, much more of a relaxed ride.
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see where you are coming from.

I learnt of a CBF600/Divvy and quite enjoyed them. After passing I bought a Hornet and totally loved it. But I recently purchasing a CBR1100XX Super Blackbird it feels so much better than the smaller 600.

I have found that the larger bike fills me with so much more confidence in corners (it's been modified and jacked up and the forks lowered slightly). It's just more planted with the extra weight but feels nimble in the corners. Being a larger chap too the more power assures me during overtaking, although triple figures arrive at quite an alarming rate.

Saying that, I haven't picked up my Hornet from my parents yet and bought it back to Bristol. I am sure it will be a bit of a shock as I have totally fallen in love with the BB, but I am not too happy with the fuel consumption isn't that great to use around town.
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My point of the post is purely that sometimes its the bike that doesn't suit the rider and its worth having a go on another bike if your not getting where you think you should.

I'm sure the Street Triple would suit more riders than the CBF1000 , particularly if you are smaller, younger and lighter than me.

But also I think the CBF1000 is a great first bike, as its very stable and easy to ride, comfortable but still nice to look at and fast enough for most riders.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 23 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

no one picks the right first bike, mine was a sachs XTR...possibly one of the worst 125's around.

But hey, half the fun is having different bikes, i used to buy a new one every year Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 23 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always in pursuit of the perfect bike. Though chances are not many people find it. Cool
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 23 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: Importance of picking the right first bike. Reply with quote

Das68 wrote:

Over the past year, I have been out on it many times (short trips) but only covered about 300 miles. I haven't managed to gain much confidence, and never felt happy on the bike.


300 miles! Most people would do that in a day, not a year. Surely that's a typo and should read 3000?

Glad you found a bike you like though! Definitely worth persevering

Have fun Smile
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 24 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddie Hitler wrote:
Could have been as simple as badly set up suspension.

My current ride felt f**king awful on the 200 mile ride back home. Was totally wooden, couldn't trust it in corners etc. A days worth of fiddling with the suspension, I found out the settings had been set to "hard" front and back. No wonder. A few adjustments and it was a totally different bike.


Or even a squared set of tyres
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even my underpowered rolling armchair become extra recalcitrant if the tyres are underinflated or squared, and feels super-twitchy on overinflated tyres, or if I've left the rear preload set for a big pillion. New (not square) tyres feel a combination of amazing handling and oooo-shit as I give the bars a shove and she turns significantly quicker than expected.

Fork oil is another unknown to sort. When I first had my big bike, i had no confidence in the front end at all. I was complaining that it felt wooden and I was getting loads of chatter. Garage I was with at the time thought I was taking the piss. Then I blew a fork seal so with the help of a friend we did a full fork service. What came out looked like used straight 40 oil, in went the recommended 10 weight oil and fresh seals, bike was transformed. Seems previous owner didn't like the front diving when he put the brakes and had put in some sockets as preload spacers and super thick oil. The next time I killed a fork seal, I cut the improvised preload spacers down by 10mm as I felt the bike was still a bit high in front.

On a bike that's proper adjustable, the chances are it will be wrong for your weight or typical application. If your bike feels "wrong", check tyre pressures and shape, return suspension settings to default and see what happens.
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