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MC900
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 23 Sep 2015    Post subject: Mod 2 lessons Reply with quote

Hi, I've failed my mod 2 twice and my instructor said I need to book lessons before the next try. I don't want to do anymore lessons as it's costly and I feel I won't benefit from them. I know what to do its just doing it on the day in a area I'm not familiar with.

Anyway to the question, can the instructor force you to do lessons before they allow you to do mod 2 again? I just want to get on with it and save the money for the tests. Cheers.
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PostPosted: 02:02 - 24 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's their machine, and their reputation at stake. So yes, they can.

Does seem somewhat shitty though. They obviously think you're ready, hence you've had a crack at mod 2, buh at the same time they are saying you need more lessons.
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 24 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was taking lessons for my MOD 2 my instructor would pull away from the lights at the same speed as a car and build up to the limit the same way, which obviously I copied on my test and failed.

The examiner gave me the whole "the bike has the power, use it..." speech. So the second time I went for my MOD 2 I had a different examiner (the one that done my MOD 1 Thumbs Up ), and every set of lights I stopped at I done my checks and tried to get as far away from him as possible. A few lights had changed to amber when I was too close to stop, so I went through, so he obviously went through them on red Twisted Evil

My instructor also said the examiners only use 1 of 2 routes, which he showed me a few times.... first examiner only used a couple of the same roads, second one used part of the road leaving the test centre then went everywhere but the places I knew, with short streets and shit loads of giveways (uphill, downhill, left and right cambers), still passed with 3 minors, 2 of which were for the making the same mistake (being told to turn left at the end of the road, and seeing the junction I'd put my indicator on, only to find there was a small side road before the junction, so cancelled the indicator and put it on again after passing the side roads)
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 24 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: Mod 2 lessons Reply with quote

MC900 wrote:
Hi, I've failed my mod 2 twice and my instructor said I need to book lessons before the next try. I don't want to do anymore lessons as it's costly and I feel I won't benefit from them. I know what to do its just doing it on the day in a area I'm not familiar with.
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If you feel more lessons will not benefit then you are either not getting adequate instructions or you should have passed your test and only nerves are letting you down. That is the only thing an instructor cannot fix,
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 24 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: Mod 2 lessons Reply with quote

MC900 wrote:
Hi, I've failed my mod 2 twice

Why?


MC900 wrote:
in a area I'm not familiar with.

You believe that you could do with riding around there some more?


MC900 wrote:
Anyway to the question, can the instructor force you to do lessons before they allow you to do mod 2 again?

Can you force them to rent you their bike and accompany you to the test centre? (I assume you're doing A2 / A).

No, you can't.

1) Negotiate with them. I like the argument that they thought you were ready, twice, so what's changed their opinion?

or

2) Show, don't tell. Buy and insure your own bike on your provisionaL entitlement (try BikeSure), book the test yourself, and find some way of getting it to the test centre that wont attract the attention of the law.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 24 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the replies guys. I failed first time for speeding because I missed the sign. Second time I failed for lane positioning and apparently I cut off a car when changing lanes on a roundabout.

Both tests where in Atherton and im not familiar with the area, and yes I feel its more nerves than anything thats letting me down.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 24 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

So both your failures had nothing to do with the area, and everything to do with poor obs then.

More lessons to work on the observation side of things may be of benefit.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 24 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, getting to know an area made me ride safer and confident. I would suggest you ride around the area at least a few days to be familiar with the signs and road markings.

If you remember the route, then ride again yourself and take mental notes. Riding solo can be beneficial due to being relaxed and not having someone that generally only speaks on the mic on negative things.

Get a friend to follow you and film you if they have a go pro. Sometimes it's easier to under our own mistakes when we see the perspective of others looking at us.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 24 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I used to instruct it was common for peeps to be able to ride around perfectly well before the test then royally cock up on the day. Nerves leading to silly mistakes was usually the reason. The best way to minimise nerves is to spend as much time on a bike as possible, some on test routes but not all - I used to take my pupils out into the countryside at least once leading up to their test so they could actually enjoy riding rather than just doing it for the pass. Its amazing how much more confident they said they felt after a 'hoon' around the lanes. I don't know if it helped on the day, but it certainly made them happier riders beforehand...

See if your instructor is willing to do this with you or if he thinks it would be a waste of time. You never know, it may just work...
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 24 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC900 wrote:
Cheers for the replies guys. I failed first time for speeding because I missed the sign. Second time I failed for lane positioning and apparently I cut off a car when changing lanes on a roundabout.

Both tests where in Atherton and im not familiar with the area, and yes I feel its more nerves than anything thats letting me down.


Spiral roundabout in Atherton, it's a bugger. I failed twice in Atherton too, 2nd one took the wind out of my sails and I didn't re-take for 3 years so had to do THEORY/CBT/MOD1 all over again (don't do that!). You could always try St Helens test centre, I found it more relaxing there and passed.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 24 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
When I used to instruct it was common for peeps to be able to ride around perfectly well before the test then royally cock up on the day. Nerves leading to silly mistakes was usually the reason. The best way to minimise nerves is to spend as much time on a bike as possible, some on test routes but not all - I used to take my pupils out into the countryside at least once leading up to their test so they could actually enjoy riding rather than just doing it for the pass. Its amazing how much more confident they said they felt after a 'hoon' around the lanes. I don't know if it helped on the day, but it certainly made them happier riders beforehand...

See if your instructor is willing to do this with you or if he thinks it would be a waste of time. You never know, it may just work...


I would say a hoon works. I had 14 hours of car lessons with an instructor and hated it. I gave up for 6 months. On my first 2 hours lesson back, I did terrible. My brother in law decided to let me hoon in his NA MR2 which relaxed me quite a bit for the following lessons.

Making mistakes is normal, so sometimes we just need to have some fun.
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