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Joker28
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: So I'm going on a group ride... Reply with quote

Im going on a group ride in a few weeks over hartside (uk), I'm on a cbr 125r and it seems to cope fairly well with the steep roads and sharp turns, I'm going with a few other guys but one of them is on a honda pcx 125 Rolling Eyes

I'm guessing his 'bike' will struggle on those hills and corners, any tips on how we should ride with him?
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get everybody to share mobile numbers. When the lead rider turns into a new road have the 2nd rider wait at the turn until all riders in the group have passed.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lend him your red powerband.

You do have one, right?
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: So I'm going on a group ride... Reply with quote

Joker28 wrote:
I'm guessing his 'bike' will struggle on those hills and corners, any tips on how we should ride with him?


The same I would ride with a 125 rider whilst on my Triple. Let them lead the way and not force them to keep up with you and inevitably run out of talent.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bunch of L-platers out on a jolly, you wont be setting land speed records regardless of what people turn up on, stick him towards the front and don't pressure.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: So I'm going on a group ride... Reply with quote

Joker28 wrote:
I'm guessing his 'bike' will struggle on those hills and corners, any tips on how we should ride with him?


Let him worry about his 'bike' ( Rolling Eyes ) and you worry about your 'bike'.

Lets be honest, there's not much to worry the skin on any local rice puddings so perhaps my advice would be put the ego and the model numbers back in the box and enjoy the countryside at the enevitable sedate pace you're used to.

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PostPosted: 14:49 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

the PCX has 11 bhp I don't think it will have a problem keeping up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: So I'm going on a group ride... Reply with quote

Joker28 wrote:
one of them is on a honda pcx 125

Riding the peak of his power curve, while you fish around in your box to find yours.

Brag about your racebike afterwards.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a long climb up to hartside .. you`ll use more fuel than expected..
fill up at Alston in the new station at the far end of the village..
the roads are littered with gravel ..
its been there couple of years and its in all the "wrong places"
whilst I don't expect you`ll be speeding much on the way up ..over the top and into melmerby is a different story ..
watch for the camera van in on or around the village green ..
and where drops from 60 to 30 ..
last but not least .. keep a distance from other bikes .. if he looses it you`ll need time to avoid hitting him.. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have we really got a pissing contest going on between 4t 125 riders? How twee.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: So I'm going on a group ride... Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum Very Happy

Joker28 wrote:
Im going on a group ride in a few weeks over hartside (uk), I'm on a cbr 125r and it seems to cope fairly well with the steep roads and sharp turns, I'm going with a few other guys but one of them is on a honda pcx 125 Rolling Eyes

I'm guessing his 'bike' will struggle on those hills and corners, any tips on how we should ride with him?


I'm guessing there is a good chance he will be better on the ride then you, with his auto transmission just enjoying the scenery while you shift gears searching for non existing powerband.

Other than that whoever organise that will let you know what to do.

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PLEASE TRY NOT TO CRASH.

DON'T RIDE LIKE A TIT IF IT WILL AFFECT OTHERS ON THE RIDE.

Ride your own ride.


If you guys use the buddy system, which is good idea, that means that each of you will have a buddy - the rider who rides immediately after him. The one in front makes sure that his buddy is following and slows down on the junctions or stops if needed for the buddy to catch up.

Simples.
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My pcx kept up with geared 125s fine

More so on hills as I never missed a gear
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't do a lot of group riding, I hate it with a passion. I hate having to ride to someone else's style.

But the times I have done that, all I know is that its always best to ride "for yourself" and not worry unduly about other people, apart from keeping a distance from them.

So long as everyone is aware in front and behind them : "where did the leader turn off/did him behind me make it through a traffic-lights-changing" routine, etc. then ride your own ride, to your own capabilities.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dump him in the middle of nowhere Thumbs Up


Nah, set your destination ish. All agree if you lose sight if the rider behind then when you turn off a road you wait at the junction if safe until he catches up and sees you. If another behind him you go on and he waits. Or just stick together in a group. You are out on a jolly not a race.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was on a group ride to Italy. 7 bikes and before sat nav's. Everyone had the same maps and the address of the daily set destinations. You could ride in a group or ride your own pace/route. As long as you let someone in the group know your intention so they dont start looking for you in ditches.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get bored and stuck in traffic, feel free to dick about on the bike, you'll be fine.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having ridden a PCX from Bournemouth to South London. I'll say this, pretty pokey and it pulls well to 60. BUT it has a sort of limiter and will not go any higher. Going down a steepish hill it still did not seem to go higher. Also, first roundabout I took on it, I was grinding the stand (and I'm not a kneedowner!).

I once went on an 'organised' ride, where one of the guys was on a PCX and he was hustling it along. CBR125R will be more fun, but it's still a 125!
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

owl10 wrote:
If you get bored and stuck in traffic, feel free to dick about on the bike, you'll be fine.

Wheelie good fun? Wink
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: So I'm going on a group ride... Reply with quote

Joker28 wrote:
I'm guessing his 'bike' will struggle on those hills and corners


You guess wrong. It'll do at least as well as your 'bike'.
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 25 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google cornerman system. Very useful way of doing big group rides without losing everyone.

One guy leads, one guy tail-guns. Anyone behind leader will hold a corner until everyone passes, the tail gunner will appear last and the corner man can stop holding that corner. Ezpz.
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PostPosted: 08:07 - 26 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

owl10 wrote:
If you get bored and stuck in traffic.


and what traffic would that be..
there is no traffic round the North Pennines AONB.
Alston gets 4 busses per day and a dozen tractors..

that reminds me .. watch for muck on the road as they are in and out of fields this time of year.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 26 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thousands of people a year manage to get up Hartside on pushbikes.

A PCX has got more power than my MSX. That only caught fire 3 times last time I rode it up there.
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 26 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:
Thousands of people a year manage to get up Hartside on pushbikes.

A PCX has got more power than my MSX. That only caught fire 3 times last time I rode it up there.

It's not very steep compared to lots of others in the Lakes/Dales/Moors.
The western side was heavily engineered to maintain a manageable gradient for horse and cart traffic to a quarry or mine near the top.
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 27 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: So I'm going on a group ride... Reply with quote

Joker28 wrote:
Im going on a group ride in a few weeks over hartside (uk), I'm on a cbr 125r and it seems to cope fairly well with the steep roads and sharp turns, I'm going with a few other guys but one of them is on a honda pcx 125 Rolling Eyes

I'm guessing his 'bike' will struggle on those hills and corners, any tips on how we should ride with him?


According to Wikipedia, the PCX will output 11.7bhp at 8k rpm, and your CBR will output 13bhp at 10k rpm.

Rolling Eyes indeed.
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