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PostPosted: 18:58 - 29 Sep 2015    Post subject: Throwing bricks at Hipsters. Reply with quote

Why did they have to dress it up as political surely they (protesters) would get more support if they said they just fancied chucking shit at Hipsters because they're Hipsters. Its enough of a reason for me.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 29 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

throwing bricks at hipsters i would want to join in on this.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 29 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Throw them a razor and some shaving foam ffs!!!!
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 29 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Throw them a razor and some shaving foam ffs!!!!


What and encourage them to start sculpting their bristles! Keep it to bricks and other assorted heavy objects!
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 29 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I'm just a simple minded westcountryist, but I find this whole hipster seeks 'authenticity' vs anti-gentrification bollocks utterly cringeworthy on all sides.

One side is insufferable douchebags thinking it's cool to live in a shithole for funsies. The other side are proud defenders of their native shithole and protesting against it getting less shitty.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 29 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wass a hipster, it it like a bumbag?
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 29 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw the two hipster fookwits being interviewed on telly when they opened their cafe. The journo was being light hearted about the whole thing but the arseholes got all offended. They were the most humourless pair of tight arsed twits. I'm glad someone has pissed in their cornflakes, lets hope someone also has a shit in the bran flakes.
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 29 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd rather brick immigrants
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 29 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone, Given up on being fussy.
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PostPosted: 01:06 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:
Maybe I'm just a simple minded westcountryist, but I find this whole hipster seeks 'authenticity' vs anti-gentrification bollocks utterly cringeworthy on all sides.

One side is insufferable douchebags thinking it's cool to live in a shithole for funsies. The other side are proud defenders of their native shithole and protesting against it getting less shitty.


So it's OK to be forced out of your home by rising rents? That's what gentrification means for a lot of Londoners.
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PostPosted: 08:07 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undinist wrote:
So it's OK to be forced out of your home by rising rents? That's what gentrification means for a lot of Londoners.


'Londoners' have such a sense of entitlement. Do what anyone else has to do, move to somewhere you can afford.
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undinist wrote:
So it's OK to be forced out of your home by rising rents?

If it's "your" home, you're not paying rent.

Reminds me of the bawwwing over the "bedroom tax". Senga McSponger giving it "Ah'll no pay it! They'll no get me oota mah hame! Ah'll turn aff the electric and use candles and it'll burn doon! See if Ah dain't." [almost verbatim]

smegballs wrote:
One side is insufferable douchebags thinking it's cool to live in a shithole for funsies. The other side are proud defenders of their native shithole and protesting against it getting less shitty.

Given that the Shoreditcheratti "anti-gentrificationists" I've seen interviewed were all "artists" of one sort or another, I'd suggest that both sides are insufferable douchebags thinking it's cool to live in a shithole for funsies.

All that's different is the amount they're willing to pay for it.
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed; I thought...
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insufferable douchebags thinking it's cool to live in a shithole for funsies

Was all that was needed, really.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point being is that when so-called "funsie" type of people move into a place, that is invariably what gentrifies it because they actually want to make the area nice to live in.

It's not about paying to live in a shit area cos its "fun", believe me, I've paid and lived in some TRULY SHIT AREAS (including the arse end of Shoreditch, long before it was trendy to do so). It's about paying what you can afford to live in a shit area cos you can't afford the posh ones. And if that means having a bit left over to buy decent grub and artworks, then why the hell should we diss the people who provide them, regardless of how they behave?

Gentrification *is* an improvement, because it means you can get PROPER coffee, flowers, decent meat again, instead of shite cheap brand bullshit sausage meat mostly made with bread and newspaper, or have to live where there are never any trees, plants or attractive artwork to cheer up your life, instead just grey dull facades and filthy windows where the only wildlife is the occasional butterfly attracted to the buddleia that in a city environment merely looks like a weed.

City living shouldn't have to be mean, miserable and grey: it's bad enough that we have to share cities with people whose flats smell of Jeyes Fluid, or who only know how to cook things that smell of old Chinamen's underpants : people who provide colour and vibrancy through art, and shops selling funky products - regardless of what they are, or the price someone is silly enough to pay for them - should be encouraged, because it brings the horror of oversubscribed "multiculturalism" back to a level where it's worth stepping out of your front door when you can see things that make you happy or that bring a smile. It reminds us that multiculturalism is also actually about a culture we might like to be interested in.

People might be silly enough to pay a fiver for a bowl of cereal in Cereal Killers, but what of the people who are silly enough to pay £25 for a block of cheese because it comes from Paxton & Whitfield in St James? Nobody disses the people living and providing art, colour and expensive shops in St James, do they. Noooooo, because it's rich silly people with more money than sense that buy there and who have gentrified there years ago, so that the area has a sheen of respectability due to the multi-millions invested in it, and that the products in its shop are considered "luxury items" by the rest of the world. Even Mr Fortnum and Mr Mason had to start somewhere, and I'm sure that poor people probably thought they were cheap and nasty purveyors of posh tat when they started, too.

So why should the less-well-off amongst us who have more money than sense not be entitled to do the same thing in an area when someone is mad enough to open a shop and sell it? To spend our money on funky weirdnesses purveyed by strange men in unusually shaped beards and with peculiar lilts: it's got to be better than spending it on black-out curtains and porridge.

The guy who owns the cereal shop is actually from thickly accented Irish stock and probably came over here to get away from the tedium of growing potatoes behind his ears, bless him.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Shoreditch, long before it was trendy to do so

Oh, I was claiming to have done things long before it was trendy to do so long before it was trendy to do so.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah and people living there before that, who lived in it as a shithole too, are probably happy it's got some nice shops and bright curtains in people's windows again for a change, as well.

Maybe they grumble that they can't get square sausage from the shop that used to be where the cereal shop now is, because the square sausage shop was closed down some 25 years ago, but at least there is colour, flavour and joy to be seen in those areas now - and not just dirt and grinding poverty.
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
'Londoners' have such a sense of entitlement. Do what anyone else has to do, move to somewhere you can afford.

Not really.

If moving to somewhere you can afford means moving to somewhere you can't get a job, then what is the point of moving at all?

I moved to a beautiful area of Kent last year, and I greatly regret that I had to move out again. But shit happens, you make the best of what you get.

Regardless of how much nicer the scenery is, the expense of losing a decent income and then having to do the bedroom tax whinge (as Rogerborg clarifies it so succinctly Laughing ) cos one has to have the rent paid by the local authority, who then tell us how many rooms we can afford to have.

Oh, great, let's all move somewhere else where our chains are double-padlocked with someone else's key, instead of just our employers'.

Despite the fact that there are quite a lot of other places I would like to live, it's not so bad living in London in the meantime - it's only people who don't/can't/never have [wanted to] live here who perceive it as some kind of over-indulgent entitledness. Nothing wrong with not wanting to live here, but please, don't lump us in with people who think the world owes them a living, cos most of us don't think like that.

We really don't expect more than anyone else.

We just get given it by those horrid people in power over whom we have no more control than you guys who don't live here, either Dance!
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they're grumbling that they don't live in Shoreditch anymore, they'd had to go and source their square sausage elsewhere in a new morass of dirt and grinding poverty.

Actually, I understand that Peckham and Tower Hamlets are already well on the way towards getting their own cereal shops, so where are the artists finding their garrets these days? God knows they couldn't move to the provinces, that'd be a fate worse than death. Pale
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is indeed a tough question, my friend.

It would be hellish to have only to be able to afford a garret where one's view is a rocky coast awash with passing narwhals, or a pastoral scene of fluffy ovine garrulousness.
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

This place is Sickpups local Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

And besides which, the poor artistes have to share their home with wandering travellers ; this poor lady has to rent her garret out to make ends meet, no doubt all in the name of righteous bohemian behaviour.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 30 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
This place is Sickpups local

Oh noes! A righteous young man being accused of being a closet hipster Mr. Green Thumbs Up
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