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Cronik
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 14 Oct 2015    Post subject: Final question before I book CBT in regards to A2 training.. Reply with quote

How much training is recommended?

3 day course?

2 days of lessons and A2 test on the 3rd?

I've also read having no training and just going in blind and breezing it on the first...but this seems unwise. Although, I could probably lend a bike and practice the manoeuvres on an empty car-park...but it would probably be a ZX-9R which seems wayy too big for an utter novice and I'd be scared to drop it.


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PostPosted: 20:57 - 14 Oct 2015    Post subject: Re: Final question before I book CBT in regards to A2 traini Reply with quote

Cronik wrote:
How much training is recommended?

3 day course?

2 days of lessons and A2 test on the 3rd?

Maybe, to get you barely up to test standard. It really depends how you take to it on the CBT. Sorry, not helpful, but honest.


Cronik wrote:
ZX-9R

Not suitable for A2, if that is actually what you meant. Are you 19-23, or 24+?

In any case you'd need to put in a fair amount of practice first, either on private land, or be smart and lucky.
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PostPosted: 07:07 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask your instructor at the end of your CBT session - he will be in a much better position to give you an intelligent answer, based on his observations of your riding ability over the duration of the course.

There is a chance that you could pass the tests by pure luck - but I don't see that as an advantage.
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught2BCautious wrote:
Ask your instructor at the end of your CBT session - he will be in a much better position to give you an intelligent answer, based on his observations of your riding ability over the duration of the course.
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This. Explain the the instructor at the start you intend to go onto A2 and they can assess you over the course of the day and let you know how many days you will need. Most people will need a 3 day DAS but if you struggle it may more.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Re: Final question before I book CBT in regards to A2 traini Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Cronik wrote:
How much training is recommended?

3 day course?

2 days of lessons and A2 test on the 3rd?

Maybe, to get you barely up to test standard. It really depends how you take to it on the CBT. Sorry, not helpful, but honest.


Cronik wrote:
ZX-9R

Not suitable for A2, if that is actually what you meant. Are you 19-23, or 24+?

In any case you'd need to put in a fair amount of practice first, either on private land, or be smart and lucky.


Let's say I tried my hand at being 'smart and lucky', with no lessons (probably not smart), and just trying to pass first time. The only bike I could practice the figure of 8's and slalom on beforehand is the ZX-9R...which isn't in A2 range. So...let's say, theoretically, I get a little loose on the law-abiding citizen front and practice with the ZX-9R on an empty car park. Is this bike an absolute NO to practice on? I understand it's too big for me if I pass the A2 but I just want something to practice basic manoeuvres on in case I opt for no lessons (though I probably will just get lessons)...obviously before I jump into the water I want to know how deep it is. Or is this more like sinking sand? Shocked

But what I'm thinking is, try to pass 1st time, if fail- lessons.


I'm 19 on Saturday.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What bike do you intend to ride for the test?

The zx9 for a novice will be really hard to perform the figure 8's and turns in the road etc if the only experience you have is your cbt.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZX9R + noob rider + figure 8 in car park = recipe for disaster.

9R would not be the best bike for doing this on, even for an experienced rider, who owns one, and is familiar with it. They are big and heavy as you will discover when trying to pick it up off the deck.

Don't, just don't.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Re: Final question before I book CBT in regards to A2 traini Reply with quote

If you practise until you can do the slow manoeuvres on a ZX-9R then they shouldn't be a problem on a sit-up bike. However, you will have to adjust to whatever bike you find yourself using on test day.

Either way, you will need to find an A2 bike for the tests, and to have insurance that covers your use of it - Bikesure (and possibly others) will cover you on your provisionaL entitlement.

Test centres don't provide them any more than they provide cars and no training school is going to rent you a bike just for your tests - you'll have to either do a course with them or source a bike yourself.

If you're going to get your own then you might as well do your be-lucky practising on it.

It is possible to do A2 on your own bike, it's even possible to do it legally if you're sufficiently determined, but it's pretty unusual.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
ZX9R + noob rider + figure 8 in car park = recipe for disaster.

9R would not be the best bike for doing this on, even for an experienced rider, who owns one, and is familiar with it. They are big and heavy as you will discover when trying to pick it up off the deck.

Don't, just don't.


Noted. It's now 80-20 in favour of lessons...unless I can get hold of a 125/suitable A2-eligible bike to practice on for a week.

This idea came along when someone said they took the test without lessons and passed on the 2nd attempt- which came out cheaper than lessons. I'd rather be a safer rider and take lessons, but still, the idea rather intrigued me.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cronik wrote:
unless I can get hold of a 125/suitable A2-eligible bike to practice on for a week.

I'm still intrigued as to where your test bike would appear from.

I imagine that you're going to get an A2 (on paper at least) bike anyway after you pass, so why not get it now and do your 'private land' practice on it?
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