Drone Footage, Jobar, And Now Homs

[Vincent]

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=62e_1445405658

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k492kDHGe28
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Yep, what's your point? This is what happens when your country is in civil war.

Here's one of London in a non civil war..

https://static.prod.bombsight.org/media/images/iwm_photo_157.jpg.800x600_q85.jpg
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There's no fucker there to shoot at. They're all en route to Calais.
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Smoke effects are pretty decent, the running animations are a bit fake looking and staccato though.
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The difference here, is that in the London photo, there are no young men in the country because they are all abroad fighting for their freedom, not fleeing to whatever region hands out the most benefits, leaving their women and children to dodge the bullets and bombs.
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[Polarbear]

^^^ Well said ^^^
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[Rogerborg]

[Vincent]

I wasn't posting it to make any point.............just cos it's a cool bit of video. You lot seem to have racism on the brain...and it's always the same people The fact there are so many single blokes amongst the genuine Syrian refugees is apparently because the blokes get sent away to try and find somewhere else to live and then summon the rest of the family when/if they do/don't. It is a pretty perilous journey after all.
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[Vincent]

Comparing the Syrian Civil War with World War Two is pretty fucked up too
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[Lord Percy]

[Vincent]

Not all Syrians in Turkey, Jordan, The Lebanon etc are in camps. Some, who either moved there early on in the troubles or don't like to accept charity, have been renting, mostly in areas of squalor and, as the adults aren't allowed to work, are now running low on funds.
Options are very limited, that's why so many are risking so much to get somewhere in Europe, preferably somewhere where they'll be able to work and pay for themselves and their families.

And before you all get yer biggot sticks out, I'm not talking about those from elsewhere than Syria, although some Afghanis and Iraqis for eg do have similar circumstances. There is of course a growing number waiting to capitalise on others misery.......that's inevitable, desperate times call for desperate measures . I'd like to know if, when Al Assad finally "does one", all his followers will follow him to Russia
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[smegballs]

So for all these middle class syrians with funds who are leaving the country... Why would risk the dangerous sea passage to illegally enter europe? Why wouldn't you just get on a flight in turkey to UK/germany/etc and claim asylum on arrival?

That way you are legitimately claiming asylum at the point of entry. You do come from a war zone. I actually wouldn't have a problem with accepting people that did that as asylum seekers tbh. I have a problem with traipsing across several perfectly safe countries to pick and choose the ones with the most bennies.

If nothing else, flights to turkey are like 200 quid, way cheaper than a trafficking scumbag.

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[Vincent]

From Wikipedia:-

"The secret police prevents people from even approaching embassies of foreign countries, making it difficult to get a visa to travel abroad. Furthermore, Syrians can not leave the country without an "exit visa" granted by the authorities.[12][28]

Article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights provides for the human right of Freedom of Movement as such “(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state. (2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and return to his country.”[29]

Despite this universal human right travel within Syria is discouraged, by both the government and the rebels, and both Extremist groups and the government have imposed restrictions on the freedom of movement on the people of Syria. Bans have been said to have increased significantly since 2006, though exact statistics are hard to come by as secret security agencies are commonly the ones issuing the bans.

The Syrian Constitution, in Article 38(3), allows freedom of movement “within the territories of the state unless restricted by a judicial decision or by the implementation of laws of public health and safety.”[30] From 2011 to 2015, the last four years of the Syrian war, the freedom of movement has been most widely restricted in certain areas and on certain individuals. Restrictions vary between regions, partly because of continuous fighting in certain areas. In rebel held areas there are severe restrictions on the movement of government supporters (or people thought to be government supporters). Foreign diplomats are unable to visit a majority of Syria, and are often not allowed outside of Damascus (Syrian capital)".

Probably the only people allowed to leave are those that the regime knows will come back. It's the making and implication of these type of laws that led to the protests in 2011.
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