Daughter is 16, needs a bike

[wots]

She had a go on the MSX, loved it, it's likely she will have one at 17.

Decided we'd do the CBT now, as although there aren't many changes it's a good excuse to get it done. As soon as her licence arrives we'll do it.

She'd like to ride a geared bike and also not look like a yob. The size of the MSX is good, she's not short. About 5'7 (and still going). Suggestions?

Only thing I can think of so far is a 50cc monkey which I can then change the engine later for fun. Would probably buy new, as at about £700-800 currently. Most 50's will have been ragged to destruction. Don't really fancy 2T as harder to work when you are getting clutch control.

Anything else?

INB4 pics of daughter, errr no
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Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125

[P.addy]

I personally, thinkg the monkey isn't a superb idea. As fun as they are, I've had plenty of blind useless drivers turn in to me and had to avoid at a rapid rate and I've only used its 3 or 4 times on the road.

I know they get abused, but for a 16 year old, there are only 2 real choices, awesome ped or RS50. You could rebuild an RS50 in your sleep

[wots]

Won't be on her own, or at least highly unlikely, literally practice until July. But real practice on the road. Bike will live in my garage and come out when she's with me. Weekends and holidays, probably fair weather at that.

Should've added that
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Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125

[P.addy]

In that case, 50cc monkey and wang a YX160 grenade in there. Whos gonna know

[wots]

For 6 points on a provisional, I think we can keep the grenade for later

Besides, you will probably end up with it
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Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125

[RhynoCZ]

Check Sachs Madass 50, you could fit the 125 engine in, no one would ever notice.
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'95 Mercedes-Benz w202 C200 CGI, '98 Mercedes-Benz w210 E200 Kompressor

[temeluchus]

50cc skyteam/jincheng etc monkey clone would do the trick.
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[c_dug]

I loved my TS50X, it wasn't really that high either for an MX style bike.

I'd rather something like that over a monkey bike.
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[c_dug]

2t yes, but most of the peaky unrideable reputation of 2 strokes comes from sporty tuned 2 strokes that make all of their power in the last 20% of the revs.

That description doesn't apply to many 50cc bikes and certainly not a bog standard ts50! Given any restricted 50cc bike, 2t or otherwise, will be making all of about 3bhp you're hardly looking at a torque monster in any case.
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[RhynoCZ]

[wots]

[stinkwheel]

An old C50. Retro chique and reasonably fast (should get 45 out of one without even starting to tune it).

Kawasaki AR50 if you can find one that's not been asploded.

A bit of a rattle through ebay came up with this. Not bargain of the century but cool as fuck for a 16 year old lassie:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-SOLO-50-From-Japan-/151502046173?hash=item234639c3dd:g:BLoAAOSwD0lUiIdW

Same seller has some other real oddball 50cc stuff imported from Japan. RD50 among others.

Here's another idea. You're daahn Saaf. Go to France with a van and import something. The French have some real kick-arse sporty mopeds you never see anywhere else.
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[CaNsA]

[Rogerborg]

I would not let anyone out on a road legal moped if I could possibly avoid it.

6 points, or have some fat drunken old sod smash her like a bowl of eggs?

https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/images/69917000/jpg/_69917530_fatal3.jpg

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28803925

Either one is unlikely, but scale the risk by the consequences.
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[RhynoCZ]

[wots]

I was talking 50cc engine with modifications on that, not swap for a larger capacity engine which is 100% not happening. As it stands at least anyway.
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Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125

[RhynoCZ]

Well, then I'd keep it stock, they say it should do 45kph (Am friendly in the EU). If you ride slow stuff defensively and do not overtake other road user when at speed, it is rather alright.
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'95 Mercedes-Benz w202 C200 CGI, '98 Mercedes-Benz w210 E200 Kompressor

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[RhynoCZ]

I wouldn't really feel safe on a 45kph/28mph motorcycle on a road where others go nearly double my top speed. Bear in mind, if the top speed of it is 45kph and it's not done by ''clever'' gearing (short final drive gear ratio = hitting the rev limiter at the top gear), the crusing speed would be about 40kph/25mph, maybe less.

I'd avoid such roads if I could, even though the de-tour would be 30 extra minutes on the bike. Some cool, nice back roads, full of corners, nice scenery, cruising at 20-25mph, no need to rush.
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'95 Mercedes-Benz w202 C200 CGI, '98 Mercedes-Benz w210 E200 Kompressor

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