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mellowgravy
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 10 Nov 2015    Post subject: cb600 hornet or cbf600 Reply with quote

ive had a ybr 125 customer for a year and am now upgrading due to passing my test and also having my bike written off, i am debating between a cb600 hornet 1999 and a cbf600 2004, any advice please

i loved my ybr custom because it is a semi cruiser style and i dont think sports bikes will be for me
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 10 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Hornet will have a bit more 'oomph' to it.

Although try and get a slightly newer one as they got a few changes in the later years (past '01 I believe) with a slightly larger front wheel which made handling better and easier for tyre choices. Past '03 gets you a nicer dash and '05 goes digital dash and USD forks.
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 10 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers, i shall certainly look, hornets seem to be a rare kiddy down south, the main thing im thinking is the abs on the cbf600, safety over uuummppf, but then i love the look of the hornet more.
i saw a review on the hornet that there rely bad for fuel capacity

im still in shock on reading that a lot of bikes don't have fuel gauges tbh

also the cbf 600 looks a lot bulkier, i do need to sit on both and see how i feel just gratefull for any views and advice
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 10 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

99 Hornet.
Yeah, tiny tank, especially on an early one like mine.
Easily forgiven when you realise that it hustles quite well.
Just reset the trip counter when you fuel up and fill up every 90-100 miles.
You might get more mpg for less revs, but then that would beg the question of why a hornet Very Happy

It is not a sensible commuter choice, which is exactly why I like commuting on it and like previous bikes, will all year round... Keeps the journey a little less tedious.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 10 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBF: better finished, slower, better mpg
Hornet: faster, sportier, more involving, stupid tank range.

Get a Hornet unless you'll be commuting more than 90% of the time.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 10 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers guys

commuting 100% on it for the last year, never had free time yet to ride anywhere else unfortunately and that will probably carry on the same

5 kids so all work and no play yet until there older

god i sound sad for a 40 year old lol
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 10 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an early Hornet and love it! I have had over 130 miles on a tank when I was just tootling around but get it over 7000 revs and it really comes to life! then the fuel consumption goes down. Laughing it is an all round fun machine and handles easily.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 11 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bear in mind that "quicker" and "slower" are relative, and in bike terms.

A CBF600 is still going to show its heels to most 4 wheeled vehicles at anywhere near license-retaining speeds.

That said, the point of any IL4 is to rev, so what kind of commuting are we talking about? I'm just fine with twins and singles for that purpose.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 11 Nov 2015    Post subject: Re: cb600 hornet or cbf600 Reply with quote

mellowgravy wrote:
i am debating between a cb600 hornet 1999 and a cbf600 2004, any advice please
If you ONLY want either of those two bikes, then as Roger said the CBF600 will still pull away from anything on 4 wheels, and will also be plenty fast enough for you to get banned if you aren't careful. It might be a bit cheaper to insure, and the tank range will be better.

However, if you are willing to widen your bike search, you could consider other IL4 600's, most of which will have a better range than the Hornet, and something like the FZ6 will be comparable to the Hornet on price and power/performance, but will get up to 160 miles to a tank. I use mine for short commuting and it's excellent for the job, and is also a fun bike for weekends etc.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 11 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sort of commute are we talking about? Mainly pootling through traffic or motorways and national speed limit roads? Simply because there's a half-faired CBF, which might be nice at high speeds.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 11 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used my Hornet for commuting for 4 years with no problems. Had a CBF600 as a hire bike for a few weeks once and it felt a bit soul-less. Chuck some Renthals on and a small can and it's right hoot.

Hornet was great.

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PostPosted: 11:04 - 11 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no fuel gauge or even light on my CBR600, you soon get used to it.

Fill tank, ride for 100 miles, refill to the same position. That'll tell you how many litres it's used, and you can compare that to your tank capacity. I get 130 miles to 11 litres of used fuel, and my tank is 17 litres, so if I fill up at 130 miles, I know I have plenty of reserve left just in case
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 11 Nov 2015    Post subject: Re: cb600 hornet or cbf600 Reply with quote

mellowgravy wrote:
ive had a ybr 125 customer for a year and am now upgrading due to passing my test and also having my bike written off, i am debating between a cb600 hornet 1999 and a cbf600 2004, any advice please

i loved my ybr custom because it is a semi cruiser style and i dont think sports bikes will be for me


That does not make any sense mate. You say you like YBR custom seat position - roomy with 89 degres knee angle, and you go for a Hornet - cramped position with 70 degree knee angle? CBF600 is little better at 74 degrees knee angle, still miles away from your YBR custom.

Check https://cycle-ergo.com/

I have to ask the obvious question why only these two bikes?
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 11 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last month bought a hornet as my first big bike. I was worried that it was going to be too much. My hornet is a late model so it might be a bit different to yours.

I got my license last month, low confidence, new tires and english wet roads.

Dont be affraid of the hornet. Last monday night I had a long commute trip back home, 50 miles on twisted road, super windy, some rain, and feeling really tired after 3 days working 12 hours shift.
It was a perfect lazy easy ride. I think I went slower than I usually go with the CBF125!!!

The hornet can be riden like a NC700, because it has enough torque.Over 40 MPH you can hit 6th gear and just go, you dont even have to gear down to overtake. You dont have but you will every now and then. Because it is amazing.
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 11 Nov 2015    Post subject: Re: cb600 hornet or cbf600 Reply with quote

Baffler186 wrote:


However, if you are willing to widen your bike search, you could consider other IL4 600's, most of which will have a better range than the Hornet, and something like the FZ6 will be comparable to the Hornet on price and power/performance, but will get up to 160 miles to a tank. I use mine for short commuting and it's excellent for the job, and is also a fun bike for weekends etc.


if you broaden your search out to Kawasaki's range the ZZR is an enjoyable but heavy beast - there are times I wish I'd got the GPZ instead as it'd be lighter and fit through a few more gaps

but I love my ZZR, same as the OP, I commute on it daily.
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 11 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

daifuco wrote:
Last month bought a hornet as my first big bike. I was worried that it was going to be too much. My hornet is a late model so it might be a bit different to yours.

I got my license last month, low confidence, new tires and english wet roads.

The bike behaves very well at low revs, over 40 MPH I am already on 6th gear you can hit 6th gear and just go, you dont even have to gear down to overtake. You dont have but you will every now and then. Because it is amazing.


at the other end of the spectrum, I join motorways in 2nd on my ZZR because I can… Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

daifuco wrote:
Last month bought a hornet as my first big bike. I was worried that it was going to be too much. My hornet is a late model so it might be a bit different to yours



Which year did you go for? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not having a fuel gauge or a low fuel light is no problem whatsoever, as long as you have a carb fed bike with a reserve fuel tap set up.

Take away the reserve tap on a bike and I do not want!

If your world is EFI then you need one of the other two options, or the bike is useless IMO out of principle, and not because I can't open a tank and have a look in, or do the 100miles fill up and calculator routine.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver_Fox wrote:
daifuco wrote:
Last month bought a hornet as my first big bike. I was worried that it was going to be too much. My hornet is a late model so it might be a bit different to yours



Which year did you go for? Very Happy


It is a 2012!, the one that looks like the little sister of the CB 1000 R. I am very happy with it!!!!

The only problem is that I am getting paranoid I got 2 almax anchor and considering a tracking device.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can never have too much security. Plus it's not model specific so it'll last for future bikes, so it's a sensible investment
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