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Thats not really comparing like with like.
Try these sets for £40 and £45.
Facom £40 1/4 set.
Facom £45 1/4 set.
A roller cabinet at £400 will be thin steel and will flex. Mine cost about £700 20 years ago doesn't flex and weighs about 200kg before you put the tools in.
Funny thing is you would happily spend £400 on a TV for the bedroom that will last maybe 5 years, here we are talking about buying a tool box that will last in excess of 50 years so the rest of your life and you are questioning the cost of it.
I justify the cost of my tools by asking how much it would cost for a shop to do the work for me. In the case of the recent top end rebuild on the ER6 I saved over £1000 by having my own tools and the experience to do the work. Throw in the cost of tyre changes at £10ish a wheel and it was worth buying a tyre machine, when you think you can buy a shop type basic tyre machine and balancer for £1200 new let alone second hand then suddenly you may realise you can actually afford a hell of a lot more than you think you can. |
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Going back to 1/4" drive, I bought this a while ago, the finish is beautiful and it's a fairly comprehensive set made in the UK (in the original Britool factory if the website is right), I can't really comment on the longevity as I've only had it for around two years and my 1/4" gear gets an easy ride. Bahco socket sets seem robust, well priced and not trying to 'do a halfords' by being high polished chrome, I (ab)used a 1/4" set for about 5 years without issue until it got "lost" on site.
Spanners are Stahlwille or Elora for me given the choice, I've been using a set of 'Kennedy Professional' for around 10 years and while I'd like to upgrade to a set of Stahlwille's (much nicer to use, slimmer jaws etc) I can't justify spending the wedge when I've yet to have a failure.
Tool boxes seem overpriced until you suffer the cheaper one's, we used to get supplied with Clarke at work but they're absolute shit, they moved onto Beta which are a lot better but not much (any?) cheaper than snap-on. Start with a top box on a bench, you can fit a lot more than you realise in one. |
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I noticed that there have been quite a few Blue Point items coming up on ebay auctions lately. This seller seems to have a lot https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/the_carfixer.
Blue Point is the Snap-on budget range but don't discount it because of that, quality is still good. If I wanted a 1/4 drive set of sockets I would be looking here. ____________________ stinkwheel: He had an animated .gif of a cat performing fellatio. It's not socially acceptable. It can have real life adverse effects on other people. |
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| Nobby the Bastard wrote: | | Ste wrote: | You need a range of different hammers.
- Normal hammer.
- Dead blow hammer.
- Club hammer.
- Rubber mallet.
- Sledge hammer.
A folding set of allen keys is very useful.
1/4 inch sockets up to 14 or 15, 1/2 sockets down to 10 or 12.
Combination spanners give you the closed ring which if there's enough space is much better than using the open end of the spanner.
For screw drivers you just want to get a half decent quality set with a wide enough range of different sizes.
You also need an angle grinder. Actually no, better make one of each size.  |
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| sickpup wrote: | | chris-red wrote: | a tool chest is metals trays and bearings, there isn't anything complicated there. I feel they are all massively overpriced for what they actually are. |
Well there are complex things like folding is particular ways so they can hold the weight needed without deforming as if they did deform it would make it hard to open drawers. For example here is a single one (I have several as you may remember) of my socket trays...
https://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad297/750RK/Odds%20and%20ends/20151205_144113.jpg
Notice the weight on the scales, thats 12 pounds so only 2 pounds short of a stone in weight. Now any cheap tool cabinet will hold around 30kgs per drawer, the better ones will hold 40kg+ per drawer so a simple 5 drawer cabinet will hold 150KG WITHOUT deforming. To put that in context a simple 7 drawer chest will hold 210kg evenly spread WITHOUT deforming, thats the weight of your TDM850.
It is still your money and it is still your choice but being uninformed when making your choices and not understanding why something costs what it does doesn't help you. |
I don't have and will probably never have 150kg of tools though, unless we included the bench AND vice. It'll be drivers, allen keys, spanners, sockets 1/4 & 1/2, and a jumble of misc stuff, hammers, pliers, spring puller, fork seal driver, chain breaker etc. etc.
So that'd be 40kg at the absolute max.
a £400 toolbox that holds 150kg of tools is pointless for someone with ~40kg of tools that probably cost ~£400
I'm sure they are good if you have a shit load of tools and you use everyday, I'll have mostly basics and use it twice a month.
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If you don't want to buy a half decent let alone a decent tool chest/cabinet then don't but stop trying to justify why you shouldn't do it.
Simple FACT is if you get one and there is loads of space in it you will fill it by putting things such as extra oil filters, bulbs etc in it as it keeps everything to hand. You will also find you put drill bits in it, your drill, you airline bits because it is pointless having a garage that has no power and if it has power you will get a compressor and you will get air tools. You will also place your household bits like screws and rawl plugs in it, spare fuses, tap washers etc and in no time at all you will find that you need a bigger tool box. And seriously do you think you will only ever need one fork seal driver, you going to keep the same bike forever?
If you really want to go into it where are you planning on keeping your lathe bits? I would suggest a tool cabinet is the perfect place and they aren't exactly lightweight bits.
And are you planning on restricting yourself to a minimal toolkit for the rest of your life? I thought the point of having this garage was you could actually do things in it and save money.
Bottom line is your money your choice but please stop trying to justify why a DIYer shouldn't have a tool cabinet, they are cheap enough when you consider they last decades and protect your investment.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 279 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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