DVSA survey on training, results are in

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

The DVSA's been out and about asking instructors what they'd like to see change in motorcycle training, including the CBT.

Crib notes are that nothing is changing (Y U ax tho?) but they'll have a jolly good think about it.

https://despatch.blog.gov.uk/2015/12/22/modernising-motorcycle-training-roadshows/

More surprise, mofo! assessments of instructors.

Yes, doing Theory before CBT makes sense but we need bigger boys to sort that out.

No minimum or maximum price on CBT because free market.

You're not allowed to just fast track eternaLearners through repeat CBTs... except actually you can. But give them a stern Tut Tut

and tell them to pass their tests.

No surprises, really. They seem well meaning but don't actually have much authority or desire to change anything.
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steve__b · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 02 May 2015 Karma :

Should learner car drivers have something like CBT as part of their training to raise their awareness of us bikers Question

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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Did you done it twice? I only done it once. What a dunce.
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Howling TerrorOutOfOffice · Super Spammer Joined: 05 Dec 2008 Karma :

I dun did one too.

I lost my badge. Crying or Very sad

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theGuvna · Derestricted Danger Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Karma :

No more mentions of license training upgrade. I am disappoint.

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Jmoan · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 18 Nov 2015 Karma :

I though the important parts of theory were already part of the cbt.

The theory test's a joke today, ran by an american company as a law unto itself with questions that have nothing to do with driving inserted into it and a hazard perception test that's been heavily criticised.

As for licensing, I'd knock it back to the 1970s plus one CBT or at the very least have each time a CBT is taken progressively unlock learner access to bigger bikes.

stevo as b4 · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Karma :

I did a cycling pro course in the late 80's, but was very disappointed as it seemed to be about wearing stupid arm bands and riding very slowly in a line of people on the road while waving your arms about in a spastic way.

There was no off roading, wheelie training or instruction on how to use parks and pedestrian high streets as your playground and treat shoppers as a slalom course.

If I had to learn to drive a car in 2016 and a bike, then I would have no problem doing a horse driving test either, as long as I could pick the horse driving school and the instructor and her outfit too! Wink

techathy · Traffic Copper Joined: 09 Aug 2015 Karma :

If you're still cycling then do the level 2 & 3 bikeability. Some places insist you do level 1 which will be teaching you to suck eggs but when you get to level 3 I think anyone who cycles will learn something new.

stevo as b4 · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Karma :

What does bikeability involve then? I'd never heard of it before TBH.

These days if I cycle on the roads commuting or a ride to an off road location, then I prefer to ride the pavement as much as possible. Especially on any busy main roads, which is most of them these days.

I only cycle on the road not to comply and be a good courteous road user and all that. If I can get round a traffic light by curb hopping I would, and as bikes have no numberplate then red lights and lane discipline is not something I care about.

techathy · Traffic Copper Joined: 09 Aug 2015 Karma :

Bikeability is the modern cycle proficiency system. There are 3 levels and it’s analogous to mod 1, mod 2 & advanced tuition. The cycle proficiency did was a watered down version of level 1 with a bit of level 2. Level 3 goes into full on defensive riding & road positioning.

https://bikeability.org.uk/what/