I have only been riding 3 days and i've already crashed!

[nick.h]

Well as the title says.

Did my CBT on a moped on thursday, had fun, and learnt how to ride on the road. Got home and i was itching to get out on the road to get used to the gears. I've been riding as much as i can since thursday, getting my nice clean bike all dirty. I had some problems with the gears, e.g. stalling on a junction, bike not starting so i had to pull over and bump it.

Today i went out with my dad, to get his bike MOT'd, on the way back we were riding the back way home, twisty country roads and such. I rode too fast into a tight corner, while desperatly trying to brake to slow down, the wheels locked in the mud. This sent my bike straight to the floor, with me underneath it.

Damage done -

1. Bent rear brake lever (fixed, bent back)
2. cracked nose fairing (fixed, super glued)
3. Smashed side fairing (fixing)
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[mchaggis]

If it makes you feel any better, I crashed and broke my arm a week to the day after I started riding. I'm sure you've read the thread before.

I proceeded to bin it a further two times within the next month of restarting, as well as doing a superman having my footpeg dig into the verge. It's all a learning process, what doesn't kill you (normally ) makes you stronger.

You've learnt the lesson about going into corners too fast and being on the brakes during the corner in a way you're not about to forget. Just practise, practise, practise. The frequency of slides and drops dwindles after a while.
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[NickD]

Hence all the advice people give about getting cheap, unfaired first bikes. Never mind, best to get your crashing done while you still have something easy to pick up and fix. There's no substitute for experience, and that's what you're building up now, next time you'll do it better.
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[iheartpie]

if you did your CBT on a moped that means your only allowed to ride non-geared bikes.....its like having an automatic driving license, you cant drive a car with gears....

so you shouldnt have been driving at all,

or am i missing something.
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[Scotsman37]

If it's true you illegaly were on a manual geared bike along the road then it was an accident waiting to happen as weren't trained and certified to do so.

Mopeds automatically time the changing of the gears correctly for you as to what speed your currently doing, but as you said being on a manual geared bike mean't when you came to a corner to fast and tried to brake and maybe at the same time trying down gear to quickly which would cause the back wheel to lock up on you.

Same idea in principal as emergency braking - brake and don't pull on the clutch lever till the bike is almost at stand still so as you know doubt know to stop the bike from stalling. Never, Never down gear during an emergency braking as there is a high chance of locking up the back wheel instead.


When you get back on your moped just take it easy around the corners and at junctions because you'll get to know what it can or cannot do on the road, and so you begin to build up experience. Some times following another biker and is experienced in riding bikes is not the best thing to do, because he will naturally take the corners more quickly than you would be capable of doing due to that person knowing the limitations of what his bike can do. He/She has problably never trained motorcyclists and so has forgotten that you should take it a little easier with a novist following you around the roads until that person become more experienced in handling the bike/moped.

[Vespa]

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[mchaggis]

I'm hardly bragging about it, it's really nothing to be proud of. All my crashes have taught me valuable lessons and only one of them was painful, and none of them were at all expensive, bar the price of a helmet. On none of mine was I going too fast, they were all simple newbie rider errors, and none of them were breaking any road laws.

If people start to beat themselves up about their own accidents and losing confidence, it seems like a good idea (to me at least) to let them know that they're hardly uncommon, and not to lose too much sleep over their misadventures.

Who knows, people might learn from my shared experiences. Braking on corners is bad. Especially if it is wet, and even more so if there is gravel. That was something I was never taught.

The main problem is that the CBT appears to really teach you nothing about riding other than the essential basics.
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[nc30 chick]

Why did you take your cbt on a ped when you had a geared bike sitting at home to use?

[simon1221]

I got asked wether I wanted a geared cbt or an automatic one, I suspect you should have as well.
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[nc30 chick]

ok I worded it wrong, i meant why did he take his cbt on a ped instead of a schools geared bike. knowing fully well he was going to be riding a geared bike.

I agree with the comment made above, you cant learn to drive an automatic car and then drive a geared car under the same licence so whats different on a bike? I think gears are difficult if you are going straight out onto the road without any practice/training on it first.

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[alliamc]

the cbt is only to make sure you're aware of safety gear and have enough road sense to get by while you're starting out. The learning of gears takes time for some people so it's quite normal for the instructor to take a learner out on a ped. I don't think it's the best idea to do a cbt on a ped and then jump on a geared bike, but it is perfectly legal, it doesn't work like a car driving license where automatic limits you only to automatics.
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[paulthewitt]

dont worry about it much, we all crash. just try to learn from the mistakes, you may have gottaway with it if you just tipped it in more and stayed away from the brakes. just analyse wot happened, discuss with your dad wot he saw, and would av done. then improve.

Paul

[Reevo8]

Hadnt you just resprayed your fairing?

Never mind, you are ok, another lesson learnt, and 1 less crash to have.

I have ridden 15,000 miles in my 20 months of riding, all through the winter. And it made me think how tough it is to start out in the winter, in the cold, wet, mudslides and even snow.


So dont let it get your confidence down, and enjoy your biking experience knowing that you have learned a lesson, and know what to do next time!

Must have been quite worrying for your dad, seeing his son sliding down the road!
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[gerbil]

if it wont lower your street cred too much get some crash bars on your bike.my hubby came off his (he had no crash bars) and the cost of repair was quite steep and i always used to worry because we're not exactly well off. when i came off mine the damage was minimal because i've got crash bars. i tend to worry less now about the costs if it should happen again.
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[mchaggis]

[Visitor Q]

This is alot of crash bashing on this thread. I think frankly you should shut the fuck up? Or is that too much to ask.

My own experience is i did my cbt on a geared bike (gpr 50, basically the matrix) and it was tough as hell, but to be honest i think (after 3rd visit) i was much better then if id just fobbed it off on a moped.

However my first incident was about 2 days after that and luckily i controlled and learnt. However i did have a couple of offs afterwards.

At the end of the day, its not how you come off, its how you pick yourself up, and what you learn

so actually to you people having a go at him, fair play
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[Will87]

The tight corner thing i have done, and i have learnt stay away from the brakes, i had a pillion though and the higher center of gravity had us both off, luckily neither one of us was hurt and i learnt from it.

You will learn tip it in a little tighter maybe, throttle off a little and pray for the best .

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