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| Whats oil? |
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the more clogged a filter gets the better it filters, there's no point changing it every oil change ____________________ Beer, It's the reason I get up every afternoon
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Change the filter every 2nd oil change.
But change the oil twice as often as scheduled.
So aye but no. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I'm gonna start another poll: Do you think people will ever stop asking this question?
I'm not here that long and this might be the 6th or 7th poll someone started, with the exact same question, since I've joined. And many newcomers just start a thread about it in a wrong section.  ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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<nods> ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| recman wrote: | | RhynoCZ wrote: | I'm gonna start another poll: Do you think people will ever stop asking this question?
I'm not here that long and this might be the 6th or 7th poll someone started, with the exact same question, since I've joined. And many newcomers just start a thread about it in a wrong section.  |
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I always change the filter with the oil. The HF303 for my motorcycle is £4.62 and that's not even the lowest price on the market. So, why not to change it, since I've got nothing to do while I'm waiting for all the oil to come out of the engine, when I drain the oil.
Plus, changing the oil filter makes me feel like I did everything right, even though the manual basically says the oil to filter change ratio is 2:1 basically. The oil filter holds 0.1L of oil (the manual says), so it feels right to get rid of as much old oil as possible.
TL; DR: Don't be cheap, change the filter, do not start yet another thread concerning this matter.
Oh, did you know you should also change the washer that seals up the sump plug? Discuss...
EDIT: £3.95 is the lowest price of the HF303 in the country. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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If I don't know when the filter was last changed, then I'll change it. Otherwise every other for me. I tend to drop my oil everyone 3k or so on the R1 anyway. New 10p cush washer every time because I'm so flush. ____________________ My Flickr |
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The only reason not to change it is all the threads about problems getting them off/putting them in/stopping them leaking.
But there are probably even more about the perils of removing the drain plug...decisions decisions...  |
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| doggone wrote: | The only reason not to change it is all the threads about problems getting them off/putting them in/stopping them leaking.
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Getting them off = buy the tool, it's cheap and everywhere. Also, if you can't get it off, then 2 things might have occurred, over tightening it OR not changing it for a long period of time.
Putting them in =, nah I've got nothing
Stopping them leaking = before you put the filter on, swipe the area on the engine and lube the rubber seal that's on the filter.
IF you run the old, classic filters (not the HF303 style), it's even easier to change them.
Some people are just hopeless. For instance, there is a thread, as we speak, where OP asks if he overfilled his engine. Amusing to read his idea of filling up an engine by pouring in some amount of oil, and checking the glass if it wasn't too much. Because checking the manual, that would say specific amount of oil and pouring that specific amount of oil in, would be too main stream.
Here it is: https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=309589 ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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| Raffles wrote: | | RhynoCZ wrote: | Oh, did you know you should also change the washer that seals up the sump plug? |
Every time or every other time? |
Every single time you take the plug off and then put back again.
I don't do that that often to be honest. I always check the washer and if it looks brand new, then I don't see a reason for changing it. After every oil change I start the engine, let it warm up properly in neutral, check for leaks, never had a leak. Then I go for a short ride around, then check again for leaks. Again, never had a leak even after the test ride.
The floor of my garage is dry, so I'd asume it is not losing any oil. Some of the oil gets burned in the engine and/or sprayed into the airbox, of course. Well ,oddly enough, the ZX7R is the first motorcycle I've ever owned that does not burn oil nor sprays it into the airbox, which is odd for a Kawasaki engine.
EDIT: When I drain it, I get the same amount of oil out, that went in. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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I have answered every time oil and filter which I always do.
Then I read your post.
Then I read my bike manual.
Apparently Yamaha recommends to change the filter every other time only.
Good to know.
From now on I am not changing every time the filter with the oil.
Because I can and getting out the old filter and getting in the new filter between the hot exaust pipes is major PITA for me.
I always ride the tits out of it before oil change as recomended by the common wisdom
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