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I came to a point where I need your help again. As always, I have to do a short summary of my diploma thesis in a foreign language. I picked the language of yours, as I already know a thing or two about it.
Q: Does the following make sense?
Q: Are there any grammar mistakes?
This diploma thesis analyses the bill of exchange, within the Czech law system. The first chapter contains a short historical excursion, that is mainly focused at the development of the bill of exchange law in our territory and its unification. The following chapters are then focused at the types of bills of exchange, selected operations and particular kinds of bills, and also at the process of enforcement of the rights from the bills and the objections against the bill payment order.
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| angryjonny wrote: | | RhynoCZ wrote: |
This diploma thesis analyses the bill of exchange within the Czech law system. The initial chapter contains a short historical excursion, which is mainly focused at the development of the bill of exchange law in our territory and its unification. The chapters that follow then focus on types of bills of exchange, selected operations and particular kinds of bills. The process of enforcement of the rights from the bills and the objections against the bill payment order is also covered.
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You're overusing commas.
I'd probably use "initial" rather than "first" and "chapters that follow" rather than "following chapters" (which would typically mean immediately following this text, not the chapters after the first).
Something like the above. At least some of my comments appear to agree with defblade. |
Indeed. You're overusing commas and using them inappropriately.
Use a comma to indicate a pause allowing the reader, if they're reading out loud, to catch their breath.
Use commas around optional parts. e.g. the section in bold above could be missed out, but the whole thing still makes sense.
Read out loud what you've written, pausing where you have put commas and full stops. You should be able to detect that it's not sounding right. Treat a comma pause as half the length of a full stop pause. So, for example:
This is my dog. [pause 2 seconds] My dog is brown.
If you pause for 2 seconds on a full stop, pause for 1 when using a comma. You, obviously, don't have to time it precisely, just use it as a guide. ____________________ Honda CBF125 ➝ NC700X
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| RhynoCZ wrote: | This diploma thesis analyses the bill of exchange, within the Czech law system. The first chapter contains a short historical excursion, that is mainly focused at the development of the bill of exchange law in our territory and its unification. The following chapters are then focused at the types of bills of exchange, selected operations and particular kinds of bills, and also at the process of enforcement of the rights from the bills and the objections against the bill payment order. |
I'm far from perfect at my own language, but I'd write:
| Quote: | This diploma thesis analyses the Bill of Exchange within the Czech law system. The first chapter contains a short historical excursion, it is mainly focused on the development of the Bill of Exchange in our territory, and it's unification. The following chapters are focused on the types of Bills of Exchange, selected operations, and particular kinds of bills. |
I've added capitalisation to Bill of Exchange as I believe it to be a title?
I can't make sense of the last bit "and also at the process of enforcement of the rights from the bills and the objections against the bill payment order."
Also it's difficult to read and then re-write, as my interpretation of your writing may be different to what you intended it to mean.
I have to say, I often forget you aren't a native English speaker when using these forums. I'm not sure what level English they'll be expecting, but I'd be surprised if you're not at the required level.
Out of interest, Kawashima often points out that his speech is at nowhere near the level of his writing, do you struggle with the same? ____________________ I am a bellend, I am a man of constant sorrow, I am a gummy bear, I am a rock. |
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| c_dug wrote: | Out of interest, Kawashima often points out that his speech is at nowhere near the level of his writing, do you struggle with the same? |
I very rarely have a problem with speech. I always only use words I know and have heard before, so I know the pronunciation. The only time I had a problem was my school years, as I was ''learning'' new words and didn't even know how to pronounce them right.
The same would apply to my vocabulary, in written form. If there is a word I don't use that often or I've never used it in its written form, I'm never 100% sure about the spelling (sometimes I edit my posts only to correct my spelling)
As I grow older and use this language of yours more often, I get better at it.
Commas
That'd be the Czech grammar influences. If you list something, you put commas between the ''items''. You never type comma in front of the word ''and'' unless it's used as in the sentence: ''and also''.
You always make comma in front of: but, that, which, who, in order to and so on. Not easy to translate the real meaning of the rule. The rules are rather simple, I've got no problem with them, but many native speakers do. A Czech word, that will always have comma in front of it has 4-5 English equivalents to it and vice versa.
The following chapters are then focused on the types of bills of exchange, selected operations and particular kinds of bills, and also on the process of enforcement of the rights from the bills and the objections against the bill payment order.
The following chapters are then focused on item no. 1, item no. 2 and item no. 3, and also item no. 4 and item no. 5.
The last place, where we put commas, is when you want to put a bit more specific information into a sentence and the sentence would also work without the bit of extra info.
For instance:
Once upon a time, in the woods I think, there was a tree.
Once upon a time there was a tree.
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You can't go wrong with that, I suppose.
You can't go wrong with that.
Both times you get the message and both times you do not need my extra bit of ''knowledge'' and/or ''personal opinion'', to understand the sentence.
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I'm going to edit the summary of my thesis. It is not really a vital part of the work, but there is no reason not to do it right.
Thank you for the input,  ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Really could not ressist for my take on it:
This diploma thesis analyses the bill of exchange; Why?
This version is short and tells you all you will ever need to know
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Short and descriptive, I like it. I can now fill the empty space with the adverts for stuff I want to sell at the moment.  ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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| Suntan Sid wrote: | | Jsmith86 wrote: | I thought it was good.
My take on it.
This diploma thesis analyses the bill of exchange; within the Czech law system. The first chapter contains a short historical excursion, which is mainly focused at the development of the bill of exchange law in our territory and its unification. The following chapters are then focused at the types of bills of exchange; selected operations and particular kinds of bills, and also the process of enforcement of the rights from the bills also the objections against the bill payment order. |
You do not "focus at" something, you "focus on" something!
As per this dictionary definition:-
| Quote: | Verb
2. Pay particular attention to.
The study will focus on particular areas of.......
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I was always wondering, whether I should use ''focus on'' or ''focus at''. Thank you, I'm gonna keep that in mind.
I thought it was the same as being good ''at'' something, not ''in'' something. - Correct me if I'm wrong, please. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 30 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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