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PostPosted: 07:39 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Bike killers Reply with quote

My brother rode in the 90's and swears Volvo drivers were 'bike killers'

I'm of the opinion that its BMW drivers, or is it just me? And not just bikes, those asshole feel they own the road...
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was salt that killed bikes in winter
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PostPosted: 07:59 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:
I thought it was salt that killed bikes in winter


naa, that's secondary to me tossing them down the road.
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shit riders are bike killers.
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Shit riders are bike killers.


And welded sprockets
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My CAREFUL NOWs are very small cars (Micra, C1, i10), Audis, white vans, minicabs and police vehicles.
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Vulva's used to have that reputation, but the rise of in-car electronics has given everyone else the chance to be a myopic nob-jockey.

I'd mirror the Borg with my "ones to watch out for". Minicab Prius and Galaxy's at any hour of the day. Then it depends when I go to work. If I'm on the road around 6am it's white vans. When I'm going in after school run time it's females in 4 wheel drives.

Then, once in London, it's pedestrians. It's one of those feckers that's gonna get me in the end. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mini Metros, Escort vans and Welsh hedges for me.
Volvos used to be the enemy of the 2 wheeled world, but I think most of them got posted through letterboxes at MAG rallies.
Audis and BMWs seem to fly the flag these days. Taxis and mini cabs still have the U-turn weapon well primed too.
Sheep are also high on the list.
Been had by white van man too. Those huge great mirrors seem to block their view.

arry wrote:
And welded sprockets


Not forgetting those sneaky garden walls.

Feck it, they're all out to get us! [/paranoid trip]
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serendipity wrote:
Yeah Vulva's used to have that reputation


Thats one angry vulva!
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those big, boxy volvo estates were the worst in their day.

Three reasons:

1) They were invariably full of more screaming kids than they had seats so the driver was highly distracted.

2) They had a HUGE long bonnet and would invariably stop with the front end of the car sticking four feet out ito the road. (either due to lack of perceprion as to how long their car is or lack of ability to see if anything was coming).

3) Volvo marketed their cars as indestructable tanks in which you couldn't possibly be injured in a crash. As such, the people who bought into that felt no responsability to avoid collisions.

I used to have an Ogri t-shirt where he was dressed in a suit of spiky armour on an armour plated bike fitted with a snowplough blade and carrying a morning star. The caption was "Just when you thought it was safe to drive your volvo.".
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
a HUGE long bonnet

I was looking at a Nissan Juke last night and the bonnet is ridiculously long and high for what's essentially a pokey little Micra on stilts. Far higher than the extra height added to the driver's seat, which is set back into the cramped interior. The A pillars are typically thick (they don't appear wide from the paintwork on the outside, but they're a mile deep) and the wing mirrors are big old things too.

I couldn't think of many ways they could have decreased visibility of what's right in front of the car, or what's approaching from the front quarters, but I'm sure they'll come up with some.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always seems to be vans for me. Had one reverse into me, had a van do a u-turn on me, and clipped a van in the last spill (although the last one was 100% my fault).

Bus drivers seem to hate bikers, had a few deliberately drive at me Confused
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything with Addison Lee stickerd in the back windows. Neutral
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

audi drivers, and range rover drivers, but then and again u can say its down to the individuals but there the ones i see who pull half way onto roundabouts to check if its clear lol
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It used to be Volvos. Nowadays the previous old/decrepit/myopic Volvo drivers now seem to all drive Peugeots.

The nutter executive company car types all seem to drive Audis. If something bad happens on the road in front of me, it's usually a van, an Audi or a Peugeot. You get the occasional beemer doing something silly, but it's usually a 118d or 318d, so obviously a company car whose company baulked at the Audi price.

So in order of danger it goes as follows:

Peugeot > ----------------------- > van > Audi >-----------> BMW ----> everyone else.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:

Peugeot > ----------------------- > van > Audi >-----------> BMW ----> everyone else.


Spot on.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
a HUGE long bonnet

I was looking at a Nissan Juke last night and the bonnet is ridiculously long and high for what's essentially a pokey little Micra on stilts. Far higher than the extra height added to the driver's seat, which is set back into the cramped interior. The A pillars are typically thick (they don't appear wide from the paintwork on the outside, but they're a mile deep) and the wing mirrors are big old things too.

I couldn't think of many ways they could have decreased visibility of what's right in front of the car, or what's approaching from the front quarters, but I'm sure they'll come up with some.


You should try sitting in a Golf SV! The A-pillars are so big they had to put quarterlights in them ( which are positioned in such a way as you can't actually see through them, making an even bigger field of view defecit).

I nearly smidsy-ed two motorcyclists and an HGV at road junctions in the one I rented for last summer holiday.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Audi drivers are bad, but I am always wary if I see a VW Golf. They seem to get ragged about by fearless young lads a lot. Had a few near misses with them.
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

You should try sitting in a Golf SV! The A-pillars are so big they had to put quarterlights in them ( which are positioned in such a way as you can't actually see through them, making an even bigger field of view defecit).

I nearly smidsy-ed two motorcyclists and an HGV at road junctions in the one I rented for last summer holiday.


Try a ford C Max, they are the same.

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Stupid useless quarterlight window.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems to be a feature of modern cars. Both my Zafira and Meriva absolutely require significant lateral head movement to see round the elephant-leg pillars. Crash protection makes crashes more likely, good result.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
It seems to be a feature of modern cars. Both my Zafira and Meriva absolutely require significant lateral head movement to see round the elephant-leg pillars. Crash protection makes crashes more likely, good result.


Good to see your taste in bikes extends to cars! Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
It seems to be a feature of modern cars. Both my Zafira and Meriva absolutely require significant lateral head movement to see round the elephant-leg pillars. Crash protection makes crashes more likely, good result.


Good to see your taste in bikes extends to cars! Laughing


Ouch Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

In central London It's Buses/Coaches -> Hackney Cab Drivers -> Mini cab cab mate? drivers -> Cyclists. Everything else is usually moving too slowly to be a real risk.
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Paddy. wrote:
Shit riders are bike killers.


And welded sprockets


who is welding sprockets? Is this like welding a diff?
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 13 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
It seems to be a feature of modern cars. Both my Zafira and Meriva absolutely require significant lateral head movement to see round the elephant-leg pillars. Crash protection makes crashes more likely, good result.

Good to see your taste in bikes extends to cars! Laughing

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