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Londoner2015
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 14 Jan 2016    Post subject: Rekluse auto clutch: info on insurance and DVLA Reply with quote

Hi all,

I have a BMW F800R (2013 model) I ride mainly in traffic. I am intrigued by the Rekluse automatic clutch: https://rekluse.com/faq/.
In summary you still change gears manually, but you can wait at traffic lights in first gear without pulling the clutch or putting in neutral.

Has anyone tried it? Would it need to be declared as a modification to the insurer? Would it need to be somehow declared to the DVLA? Would a new V5 be required?

Thanks a lot!
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 14 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would I declare it, no.

2nd, would I purchase it, no, neutral was invented for a reason, only a spastic can't operate a clutch.

*or a disabled... but then I'd have a different bike choice.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 14 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Would I declare it, no.

2nd, would I purchase it, no, neutral was invented for a reason, only a spastic can't operate a clutch.

*or a disabled... but then I'd have a different bike choice.


It’s not a matter of ability, but of convenience, especially when most of my riding is, unfortunately, in traffic and I have to stop or slow down to a walking pace every 2 minutes.
Of course it’s a very subjective choice, but let’s please not turn this into a flame on automatic vs manual.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 14 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's interesting. Does the sole UK distributor even stock the BMW clutch though?

The definitive answers are: ask your insurer, ask the DVLA.

However, I'd go with:

Arrow Yes, it's a modification in which your insurance will be interested. Would I tell them? Probably not, since it's not performance related and doesn't make it any easier to steal.
Arrow No, it won't change the vehicle category. Would I even contact the DVLA? Definitely not.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 14 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
That's interesting. Does the sole UK distributor even stock the BMW clutch though?

The definitive answers are: ask your insurer, ask the DVLA.

However, I'd go with:

Arrow Yes, it's a modification in which your insurance will be interested. Would I tell them? Probably not, since it's not performance related and doesn't make it any easier to steal.
Arrow No, it won't change the vehicle category. Would I even contact the DVLA? Definitely not.


I couldn't find the BMW clutch on the UK distributor's website. I contacted them and am awaiting a reply.

What worries me about insurers is that they'll try any excuse not to pay in case of a crash! I wouldn't want my policy invalidated because of this. I guess I'll have to get something in writing from the insurer to be safe.
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 14 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

not the same bike, but a lot of the green laneing guys seem to get on really well with the Rekluse clutches.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 14 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

bugeye_bob wrote:
not the same bike, but a lot of the green laneing guys seem to get on really well with the Rekluse clutches.

Off road they can make a lot of sense as it stops the bike stalling if you drop it and they allow mean less fine clutch control is needed when there may be a lot more going on. 300EXC with a rekluse and 2 wheel drive kit could be very interesting for replacing skill with technology Smile.

Note that not all still leave you with the use of your clutch lever. Probably does for the big beemer.

I don't think the bike would count as automatic.
No doubt you should tell your insurance company when you replace your blown indicator bulb with one that isn't an original BMW.
If you didn't tell them and your bike got stolen, they wouldn't pay out for it. If they could attribute an accident to it, you could see them claiming third party damages from you.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 14 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
If you didn't tell them and your bike got stolen, they wouldn't pay out for it.

Not for the clutch, no. And they aren't cheap.


G wrote:
If they could attribute an accident to it

I'm trying to imagine how. Are scooterists more prone to accidents because of centrifugal clutches?

Have you considered an easy pull clutch?

Feckit, £20 for an eBay knock off, I've just ordered one. Wink
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 14 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, should have been clearer that I meant the unspecified parts - they can't know what was on it unless it's recovered, of course.
If it was something like a solid gold engine cover, could see they might use that as an excuse to pay out if it later became clear that was the case.

Possibly a situation you should have had the vehicle in neutral (on stand, if that were possible) and some how twist the throttle?
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 14 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

From memory with insurance it is meant to be a contract of utmost faith, ie, if you think they might need to know then you must tell them. On that basis I would say the insurance company should be told.

As to the DVLA, possibly not. Unless you want the bike registered as an automatic so someone with an automatic only licence can ride it

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PostPosted: 15:56 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a crf450r that i used for green laning (overkill yes, but was fun Laughing ) the clutch on it was on or off type of setup and useless at anything below 10mph. I put a rekluse on it which transformed the bike and was an amazing peice of kit. not sure i would bother on a road bike though.

As for insurance, i wouldnt tell them but thats just me.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Have you considered an easy pull clutch?

Feckit, £20 for an eBay knock off, I've just ordered one. Wink

Fitteded it, would fitteded again.
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