Abolish Road Tax on Motorcycles

[headlamp]

This Government petition just popped up on my timeline on Facebook. Seems reasonable to share with everyone here to sign and get a reaction or debate going in Parliament!

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/118875
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[nowhere.elysium]

FFS, again? It won't happen, they don't care about the petitions, move on.
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[stinkwheel]

Not signing.

Please ffs do NOT draw their attention to even considering comparing motorcycle emissions to cars and taxing them in a similar way.

Motorcycle emissions are actually pretty crappy. The more fun the motorcycle, the worse the emissions.

Please don't make the government tax fun motorcycles more heavily than boring ones, I don't want to ride an NC700.

I for one find it utterly hilareous that I can ride a motorcycle that does over 150mph, is capable of dropping below 30mpg if thrashed and only pay £65 road tax on it.
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[UnknownStuntm...]

What a load of nonsense.

Already I get abused and harangued by people seemingly jealous that I don't pay road tax for my bicycle. To the point where people actively use their cars as weapons to try to kill me - just to prove a point that "I should not be on the road". What do you think this will do to average Joe's tolerance levels for us filtering, parking cheeky-like and generally getting away with more than the 'cagers'?

A motorcycle generally has a pretty crap record on emissions. For the size of the engine, I (in my infinite capacity as knowledge-in-chief of bullshit statistics) reckon it pops out as much nastiness from it's pipe if not more than your average family crashabout.

We should probably count ourselves luck we've not been whacked with a big stick (Euro 7 is next isn't it?) telling us we have to be able to start the engine with a fart as traffic lights go green.

[BTTD]

What Stinkwheel said.

[grr666]

Won't be signing that. OP is short sighted.
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[Monkeywrenche...]

If they look at the tax rates and decide to apply car rates to motorcycles a new ZX10 would cost £180 a year to tax.

Probably best to just shut up about it yeah?

[Holdawayt]

There's no such thing as road tax, it was abolished in 1937. So they'll look at that and think "yep already done, next!".

You're thinking of Vehicle Excise Duty.

This is a tax on cars, not roads, and it goes straight into the general Treasury fund. Many government agencies have now started calling VED "car tax" but it might be classified as a pollution tax, since it's now based on the size of engine and emissions. Ultra-low emissions vehicles are exempted.

[Copycat73]

any change will be self funding ..
ie. they will load big bikes to give away free tax to smaller ones...

no i wont be signin.
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[roboff94]

I dont mind paying 17 quid a year for my 2smoke, you can see the grass around you die when it starts up....

[AdamEf]

Most motorbike tax would go up if it was done proportionaly on emissions. Even my very frugal 125 would be half of what our family car is. That'd be £90 instead of the current £17. I'm quite happy with the £17. Even my 650 is only £80 and is similar in emissions to the family car.

[M.C]

[Rogerborg]

[DJP]

[DJP]

[Rogerborg]

Sure, this petition was out of date and unresearched before it was written.

The thrust of it is reasonable, mind, but it's a daft waste of time, as they all are.

If you want it raised in parliament, just contact Steve Baker MP, the chair of the All-Party Parliamentary group for motorcycling and card-carrying MAG member. Do they have cards? I bet they do.

If he's not going to raise the issue, who is?
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[moonzoomer]

Just put my old 2.3 litre petrol Volvo through its annual MOT, yet again this year the car makes zero readable emmisions even though it has 210 k on the clock, that tells me I should be paying No, Zero, Nil, None , Ziltch tax/VED and I have the official government paperwork to prove my car makes Zero emissions, the powers that be assume a lot of shite. IMO the road tax/VED should be based on actual test figures not what some Tory fecker thinks the figures might be, I must bugger around with the injection system to get those nasty pollutants up to government standards.

[Rogerborg]

Road tax is currently based solely on carbon dioxide levels.

Carbon dioxide is not measured in MOT emissions tests.

I'm not agreeing with the system, mind, especially in the light of VW, Renault and the rest that will come to light.
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[grr666]

[Fizzer Thou]

[sgtcalle]

[moonzoomer]

[weasley]

[Rogerborg]