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Cronik
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Dads bike stolen...uninsured...next move? Reply with quote

The insurance ran out about a month or 2 ago and since he hasn't had time to ride it much in the last year, he hadn't gotten round to renewing his policy yet...

We woke up today and seen it gone. A big heavy Ninja with front and back wheel disk locks, attached to the wall...just gone.

Really pissed off as he was thinking of selling it because of inactivity.

Is there any hope?
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P.addy
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends, is he out looking for it now or just mourning the loss? Sad
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this country, with our open borders? Probably not
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Lots of hope. The shinier it was, the more hope you have.

Look around all of the local housing estates and industrial estates.

Typically bikes are nicked for two reasons - joyriding, or selling. Typically small and off-road bikes are stolen for joyriding, they are then found crashed/burnt out near some woods or a park. Shinier bikes are stolen for selling - either whole, overseas, or as parts.

Bikes stolen to sell have to be taken back to a secure lock-up for storage or dismantling before the next stage. This lock-up will usually contain several bikes, so the theives want to protect its location. Therefore, stolen bikes are typically dumped not far from where they were nicked for a week or so prior to moving on in case they have a tracker.

So get on your bike and poke around all of the side streets on your local estates. Bikes are generally left on the street in plain view. Call the police first and report it, and if you find it call the police before touching it.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not unusual for them to have just quietly wheeled it a short distance and hidden it to recover later with a van.
If you didn't know the bike it would look like it broke down and was being recovered.
In town they seem to favour pushing it with a second bike and foot on the pillion pegs and could soon get it out of sight some distance away.

From time to time a stash of stolen bikes is recovered - so you obviously want to report it ASAP.
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear this.

In addition to the above, I trust that (if the insurance didn't renew and how joyful it would be if it had) he SORNed it. I'd hate to see him getting a blackmail demand from DVLA for a stolen bike. Sad
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
Yes. Lots of hope. The shinier it was, the more hope you have.

Look around all of the local housing estates and industrial estates.

Typically bikes are nicked for two reasons - joyriding, or selling. Typically small and off-road bikes are stolen for joyriding, they are then found crashed/burnt out near some woods or a park. Shinier bikes are stolen for selling - either whole, overseas, or as parts.

Bikes stolen to sell have to be taken back to a secure lock-up for storage or dismantling before the next stage. This lock-up will usually contain several bikes, so the theives want to protect its location. Therefore, stolen bikes are typically dumped not far from where they were nicked for a week or so prior to moving on in case they have a tracker.

So get on your bike and poke around all of the side streets on your local estates. Bikes are generally left on the street in plain view. Call the police first and report it, and if you find it call the police before touching it.


I'm going to get dressed and have a look around the local 'places'. I only have a pedal bike though. I joined this forum for when I actually get a motorbike myself...my excitement has dampened now because nowhere I put it will it ever be safe. Sad

The bike is really heavy so it must have been organized and not an impulsive robbery because the bike had a chain and disk lock, front and back, locked to the wall and the steering lock ON. They came prepared.

My dad is in work now, barely. He's just lost £3000 to scumbags and knowing that it's uninsured there doesn't seem to be any light in that regard.

I'm just going to have to scout myself.

I've been checking Gumtree and Ebay all morning just in case...I know it's a long shot though as it's probably going to be stripped for parts and moved for pennies by tomorrow.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What chain linked it to the wall?
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure that it's not insured? Plug the reg into https://ownvehicle.askmid.com/

Paddy. wrote:
What chain linked it to the wall?

You thinking Oxfraud or other Thatcham Sold Secure Super Extra Platinum stylee jokechain?

I'm with stinkwheel on steering locks. If it's got any other security on it at all then all you're doing is ensuring that it'll have a broken lock once they take it.

Pushbike is a good search method, they won't have been shy about shoving it down a path or alley.

Best of luck.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I'm with stinkwheel on steering locks. If it's got any other security on it at all then all you're doing is ensuring that it'll have a broken lock once they take it.

Steering lock on when parked is a condition of my insurance policy (MCE). Didn't declare any security measures so I suppose if it's stolen/recovered they'll just check the steering lock is wrecked anyway (so will have to ensure it is either way).
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cronik wrote:
it must have been organized and not an impulsive robbery because the bike had a chain and disk lock, front and back, locked to the wall and the steering lock ON.


Rogerborg wrote:
Pushbike is a good search method, they won't have been shy about shoving it down a path or alley.


Surely given the above it will have been a crop-the-chain then heave it into a Transit job?
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go hunting now. I found mine less than half a mile from home. The thief had managed to cut themselves and bled on my exhaust, DNA secured a conviction. If it rains, any DNA/fingerprint evidence will vanish.

No guarantee you'll find it by looking, but if you don't look I can guarantee that you wont!
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ferrisio wrote:
Cronik wrote:
it must have been organized and not an impulsive robbery because the bike had a chain and disk lock, front and back, locked to the wall and the steering lock ON.

Rogerborg wrote:
Pushbike is a good search method, they won't have been shy about shoving it down a path or alley.

Surely given the above it will have been a crop-the-chain then heave it into a Transit job?

Probably, but it depends on your assumptions. OP seems to assume that it was a van job, by which I assume that there were bits of chain but not disc locks lying around.

But even if the disc locks weren't cut off at the scene, they could have unbolted two out of three locked discs and still have had a working brake on it.

Long shot, but what c_dug said.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or for the more nefarious....don't report it, renew the policy and report it in a weeks time....
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

TbirdX wrote:
Or for the more nefarious....don't report it, renew the policy and report it in a weeks time....

Insurance fraud is far more serious than stealing vehicles. I expect it funds The Terrorists and all sorts. Tut Tut

There is a risk that it gets involved in something naughty in the mean time. Click CaNsA if you want to know more.
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 20 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the locks were cut off and left where the bike was I would go looking, if the bike was lifted away (so no disc locks cut off onsite) then it'll be long gone in a van.

Best of luck
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 20 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

TbirdX wrote:
Or for the more nefarious....don't report it, renew the policy and report it in a weeks time....

IF caught..
the goin tariff for that is 12 months inside and 150 hours unpaid community service .. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 20 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bin men.

Make a poster with a good pic of the bike and the number plate writte large and clearly buy a fuckload of doughnuts, and go to your local depot with 20 copies. Ask nicely for them to put one in each cab, and they might look out for it.

Bin men go everywhere. EVERYWHERE.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 20 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you want pics of Bin men Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 20 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

RPM wrote:
Why would you want pics of Bin men Shocked Shocked

You never question the Unknown Stuntman.

Never.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 20 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

We went to the local taxi drivers when my nephew's bike was stolen, offered a small reward and within 4 hours we had a location, within five hours we had a name, within six hours we had his bike back and a mother crying for her son's future safety.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
We went to the local taxi drivers when my nephew's bike was stolen, offered a small reward and within 4 hours we had a location, within five hours we had a name, within six hours we had his bike back and a mother crying for her son's future safety.



Out of interest, how much was said reward?
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ CaNsA

I wasn't , I was questioning Fidge Wink
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