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Polarbear
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PostPosted: 03:42 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Insurance woes Reply with quote

There was a topic on BCF not long ago where someone had their insurance cancelled because of not declaring a claim which he/she said they knew nothing about. I can't find it.

This has now happened to one of my daughters and I would like to know the outcome of said topic in case there is somewhere she can check to see what they were accusing her of, as she swears she has declared everything.

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: 04:49 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's this from 2012

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=262088
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PostPosted: 07:52 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks mate. Not sure if thats the one I was thinking about but it was that CUE link I was after. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:33 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a Bodyguard thread
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4237059&highlight=#4237059
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't we have a chap on here who asked about what the premium increase would be if he added something to his bike, then got stuck up for the money and invited to prove that he hadn't already modded it. Balance of probability, innit.

I love how the CUE site provides no mention at all of how to get bad details corrected, because of course, nobody in insurance ever makes mistakes. There's a "contact" form that's clearly aimed at businesses who might want to pay them monies, not individuals.

I guess you could write to them, or in the very very small print at the bottom of the CUE site, it provides:

0345 1652803

[email protected]

Best of luck.
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PostPosted: 05:39 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help.

Update - God, what a nightmare that was.

It seems (if I understood the pond life on the other end correctly) that she put the wrong year for a claim which meant that she was charged a lower premium than she should have been. When this flagged up they regarded it as trying to defraud them and cancelled her insurance.

No phone call, no talking about it might have been a mistake, just a registered letter saying it was cancelled.

So they wouldn't re insure her. Trying go compare for quotes and then telling them about the insurance cancellation on the phone got basically laughter and the metaphorical 'fuck off'.

So having a hysterical daughter on my hands I phoned around a few of these specialist companies that deal with the 'uninsurable' and finally got her insurance with Acorn Insurance.

https://www.acorninsure.co.uk/.

They were very helpful and even though she (read me) is paying quite a bit more than she was, at least she has insurance.

Fucking kids.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Urk. Glad you got it sorted, but that really does bother me. Remembering exact dates and details for multiple policies for 5 years, you're going to mess up eventually. And having insurance cancelled is a "declare for life" condition. Sad
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

When my Mrs put me on the insurance for the car, I'd forgotten altogether a claim that was made about 4 years previous on the bike, and we received a call the next day asking about it, told them what the claim was all about and that was it, insurance carried on no problems. That was with Adrian Flux if I remember rightly.

Seems a bit over the top to cancel someone's insurance for what is a genuine mistake. If they knew the information was incorrect it cant of hurt to make a quick courtesy call and clear it up.
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob W wrote:
When my Mrs put me on the insurance for the car, I'd forgotten altogether a claim that was made about 4 years previous on the bike, and we received a call the next day asking about it, told them what the claim was all about and that was it, insurance carried on no problems. That was with Adrian Flux if I remember rightly.

Seems a bit over the top to cancel someone's insurance for what is a genuine mistake. If they knew the information was incorrect it cant of hurt to make a quick courtesy call and clear it up.


Agreed. It seems the computer culture nowadays. Computer says she lied so that's it. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
It seems (if I understood the pond life on the other end correctly) that she put the wrong year for a claim

Just a thought: did she?

How was that information conveyed?

Do they have a record of it?

Given the life-long consequences, I'd not let that one drop.
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely complain, in the strongest possible way, following the complaints procedure set out in the policy. You need to get this struck off.

If they're not willing to reinstate then onto FOS.

https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications/technical_notes/misrepresentation-and-non-disclosure.htm#a5

It wasn't reckless, it was innocent misrepresentation and because they've already admitted they would have accepted the policy but just at an increased premium then a Proportionate Response would be much more appropriate - thus a charging of an additional premium to get the policy back onto the basis it would have been had they have known from the start, rather than outright avoidance.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Definitely complain, in the strongest possible way, following the complaints procedure set out in the policy. You need to get this struck off.

If they're not willing to reinstate then onto FOS.

https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications/technical_notes/misrepresentation-and-non-disclosure.htm#a5

It wasn't reckless, it was innocent misrepresentation and because they've already admitted they would have accepted the policy but just at an increased premium then a Proportionate Response would be much more appropriate - thus a charging of an additional premium to get the policy back onto the basis it would have been had they have known from the start, rather than outright avoidance.


I'll take it further arry. She's an HGV driver now so she was sick with worry over it. All this claims shenanigans happened when she had just passed her test and was a 17 year old, a typical young driver.

She's now matured, done her HGV and got a good driving job. She doesn't need this shit.
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What really hacks me off about this is being asked to give the insurance industry information that's available to them but not to us, then being punished for giving an answer that doesn't match the one that they already knew.

Who benefits from keeping CUE data a big "gotchya!" secret? Not us, that's for damn sure.
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frustrates me too Roger.


Polar - if you need any help with the letter writing just drop me a line Smile
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