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PostPosted: 05:01 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Steam power Reply with quote

I was watching Fred Dibnah programme on steam power on one of the fringe channels last night.

He did a tour of the Royal Yacht, the engineroom on there is something to die for. Wub

https://www.royalyachtbritannia.co.uk/media/182892/MG_8906.jpg

I spent all my working years on steam powered tankers, the enginerooms didn't look like that.

I would love a steam powered narrow boat but they are rocking horse poo with prices to match.

Does anyone else on here play with steam power, heritage railways and the like or am I just a dinosaur Laughing
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PostPosted: 05:32 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll drop Northern Monkey a msg.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fire on the Welsh highland railway and the Ffestiniog railways and I've done a little bit at the keighley and worth valley and the north Yorks moors railway

It's hard work but you get to make epic fires.

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PostPosted: 10:00 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Steam power Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I was watching Fred Dibnah programme on steam power on one of the fringe channels last night.

He did a tour of the Royal Yacht, the engineroom on there is something to die for. Wub

https://www.royalyachtbritannia.co.uk/media/182892/MG_8906.jpg

I spent all my working years on steam powered tankers, the enginerooms didn't look like that.

I would love a steam powered narrow boat but they are rocking horse poo with prices to match.

Does anyone else on here play with steam power, heritage railways and the like or am I just a dinosaur Laughing


I used to know a bloke who was on the royal yacht he worked in the engine rooms
not sure if it was true or not but he said there was two rooms
the chrome one for visitors and a normal one that ran the engines
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm keeping an ewye out for next time they do an open day at Carrs Mill in Silloth which is just up the road from me.

Apparently their steam engine is something special.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Steam_engine,_Carr's_flour_mill_-_geograph.org.uk_-_707649.jpg

Mind you, it's worth remembering most of our electrical energy is still provided by steam turbines. Even a nuclear power plant is just a sophisticated way of boiling water.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I studied it a little for power station application but have only ever seen steam use in heating applications unfortunately.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:
I fire on the Welsh highland railway and the Ffestiniog railway....................


I made that, well a little bit of the Ffestiniog railway!

Back in the 70's my Dad was a member of the Ffestiniog railway society and my parents had a small holiday cottage in Ffestiniog.
Every school holiday we would go to Ffestiniog and "work" on the railway.
At the time the railway terminated well short of Ffestiniog, but was being extended.
Basically our job was breaking rocks in the hot sun, when it wasn't raining! Rolling Eyes
My Dad, my brother, (10), and myself, (13), would turn up, we were issued with a hard hats, a pick axe and a sledge hammer.
Two blokes would disappear down the track, explosives in hand, and blast some rock away at the end of the cutting.
There were no JCB's, so it was your job to load the rocks into a tipper truck, any rocks that were too big to lift had to be broken up with a sledge hammer and spike. Once full, the tipper truck had to be pushed to the end of the track and the spoil tipped out at the end, to build up the new embankment.
It sounds like slave labour but it was fun!

The first time the, inevitable, back to school, "What did you do in the summer holidays" essay question, came up, I answered truthfully, I got told off for making stuff up! After that I just made stuff up! Rolling Eyes

You can't even contemplate the elf 'n' saftee drama all that would inspire these days, which ties in rather well with the "Art of being manly" thread!
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sid on his holidays

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PostPosted: 15:07 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:


Laughing Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Mind you, it's worth remembering most of our electrical energy is still provided by steam turbines. Even a nuclear power plant is just a sophisticated way of boiling water.


Correct, even gas stations use the combined cycle model now, using the gas turbine exhaust to heat a recovery boiler and passing the resultant steam through a second, smaller turbine.
Coal, nuclear and biomass all work the same way, just heating the water in slightly different ways.
In fact, even some types of solar generation use steam as a transfer medium.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:

In fact, even some types of solar generation use steam as a transfer medium.


Yeah solar-thermal makes way more sense that sticking fields of PV panels everywhere IMO. Mirror arrays and steam turbines use mature off the shelf tech, and way less of the nasty chems used to manufacture the silicon crystals in PV panels.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 23 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only just work a kettle and it's still a mystery to me how it knows when to turn itself off.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 24 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Steam power Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I was watching Fred Dibnah programme on steam power on one of the fringe channels last night.

He did a tour of the Royal Yacht, the engineroom on there is something to die for. Wub


Get yourself upto Edinborugh and have a proper perve and that shinny engine room Thumbs Up

The tour is well worth it just for that alone.

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PostPosted: 11:06 - 24 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:
I fire on the Welsh highland railway and the Ffestiniog railways and I've done a little bit at the keighley and worth valley and the north Yorks moors railway

It's hard work but you get to make epic fires.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/geoffhill/31C6C5BE-7E3E-4771-813B-3E8C1568C3F8_zpseeaxmlcv.jpg


Cool photo - I can feel the heat from here. My old man would have looked at that photo then probably talked for an hour about what he sees in it. He built platforms, laid miles of track, machined bits for engines, trained drivers - he lived and breathed steam engines. When he was cremated they laid on a special train and his ashes were shovelled into the firebox - by a guy that he had taught to drive.

He wouldn't use a metric spanner (called them sillimeters) so when his bike needed work I would have to go and fix it for him. His bikes were always rolling wrecks but an engine wanted for nothing, he would spend his last penny to buy a part or a slab of PB1 to make something from.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 24 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:
I fire on the Welsh highland railway and the Ffestiniog railways

Northern Monkey at work...
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 24 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a little bit of luck and persuasion I'll be involved in running this in the next six months or so:

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PostPosted: 17:17 - 24 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the other end of the scale I've still got a Mamod steam traction engine in the loft. I was always a little afraid that it would blow up.
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 24 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Steam power Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I was watching Fred Dibnah programme on steam power on one of the fringe channels last night.

Does anyone else on here play with steam power, heritage railways and the like or am I just a dinosaur Laughing


The company I work for do a fair amount of work for the Isle Of Man Steam Railways which has been operating continuously since the late 1800's. We are often called in for boiler repairs and fabrication work on the rolling stock. Fred Dibnah's son Jack worked there until a couple of years ago restoring one of the steam locomotives, he's since moved on to work in a boiler shop somewhere in the uk.
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Northern Monkey wrote:
I fire on the Welsh highland railway and the Ffestiniog railways

Northern Monkey at work...
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The steam turbines and gearbox of one of the tankers I used to work on.

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40 years old that old lady.
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:


I can sell you some replacement valves too! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
40 years old that old lady.


What. How do you keep it all so clean?! It looks like it was installed yesterday.
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to work on Beyer Garratts in Bulawayo Zimbabwe.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Wub

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PostPosted: 18:51 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:

What. How do you keep it all so clean?! It looks like it was installed yesterday.


Long time at sea and nothing to do all day long. Laughing
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