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PostPosted: 13:51 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Ever bought and a bike and thought this is too much? Reply with quote

So I have a new bike and its street triple r.

I had one about 3 years ago and loved till, till the gearbox went bang.

Previously have had a number of vfrs, 600s and a fireblade.

I finally did a ride on the bike yesterday and it just felt too fast. I did not go above 6000rpm, quite frankly it felt too quick.

I admit I am older and slower but I am quite surprised at this.

In the intervening period I have ridden a scooter but in the summer last year did long test rides on a vstrom 1000 and gsxr 1000, and did not have this feeling of trepidation.

Hints, advice etc appreciated.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ride it more often and further, you're just de-sensitized to the speed and acceleration, it will all come back to you with the more exposure you get
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the twitchy nature of the Triple scary as a new rider. It wasn't the right bike to do a 3 day tour of Wales mere days after passing my test
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Define too much, too much for what?

If you mean too much for most people on public roads, then pretty much every litre sports bike since about 2005.

Too much as in "too much to handle I don't feel safe", personally never, too much as in "I am going to loose my licence if I keep this up", zx10r
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It can feel like that for a while, but the more you ride, the tamer the bike will feel. It can also vary depending on your mood, tiredness etc. On the odd occasion when I'm out of sorts, my 600 feels like a rocket, but most days when I'm feeling normal I'd be quite happy having 50 more horses to play with.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's your own personal sense of speed that makes it "feel" like your going too fast.
In comparison to your other bikes, your likely not going any faster.

Keep riding it and you'll get used to it hopefully.
But if you not enjoying it or don't find it comfortable, maybe it's not the bike for you Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only ever had one bike that felt like too much, a Denco-tuned Kwak H2. But it was really a case of the engine delivered far more than the brakes and chassis could handle.

I think it's just a matter of getting used to the bike again. You only go as fast as you want to, so start slow. Wait till spring/summer (assuming we get one Rolling Eyes ), and see how you go with better road conditions perhaps. But if after all that you still feel it's more than you need, then go for something less powerful - it's really up to you, and you don't need to be pressured into owning more than you feel you can handle.

I've just bought a Street Triple myself, part of the reasoning being that I think it'll be better suited to the tighter, more 'technical' roads around here compared to where I've just moved from (I'd promised myself one for some time, so it is only part of my reasoning). The Fazer 1000 is ok for it, but I felt a lighter, less powerful machine makes more sense and would be more enjoyable on such roads.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do of course earn Man Points for riding a fast bike, but you'd be surprised how little you can actually trade them in for.

If you're not enjoying it, you are allowed to sack it off for something that delivers a bit lower down. Potato-potato-potato.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a 954 'blade and thought it was too powerful, too taut and too hard. It was too much for me.

I'm happy to admit it, it's too much for the road. My street triple R is fine though, even though it has the same power to weight ratio as the early blade.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change up earlier. No one is forcing you to use all the power. But too much power is preferable to too little, especially on an everyday bike. I find 130bhp ideal for commuting.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Ever bought and a bike and thought this is too much? Reply with quote

Samsbike wrote:
I did not go above 6000rpm, quite frankly it felt too quick.


This suggests that it's not the all out power that's intimidating you, but the immediate throttle response and handling that's catching you out a bit.
Throttle control can take a while to dial back in if you've been riding something less responsive. Likewise the handling feedback is probably overwhelming you a bit. Some big bikes can be easier to ride, even with more power.

You'll either get used to it, or decide the balls out commitment isn't what you want anymore. (Yes, I know you don't have to ride it like that, but some bikes really make sense when you do).
Mate in his late 40's went from a tuned Ninja 600 that he wasn't riding much to a VFR after he test rode the CBR600RR he thought he wanted.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samsbike wrote:

I finally did a ride on the bike yesterday and it just felt too fast. I did not go above 6000rpm, quite frankly it felt too quick.

I admit I am older and slower but I am quite surprised at this.

In the intervening period I have ridden a scooter but in the summer


andys675 wrote:
ride it more often and further, you're just de-sensitized to the speed and acceleration, it will all come back to you with the more exposure you get


I'd say Andy has the answer, if your most recent experience is a scooter (maybe 30bhp?) then jumping onto a Triple R (around 100bhp?) it must feel like a rocket and it's a completely different beast.

Samsbike wrote:


I finally did a ride on the bike yesterday and it just felt too fast. I did not go above 6000rpm, quite frankly it felt too quick.


To be fair, I believe any 600 sports bike/100-ish bhp in a sub 180kg bike is more than enough, in fact I reckon i'd be quicker on track with a 600 than a 1000. The only reason i've gone for bigger CC's is because of 2-up riding, commuting and laziness.
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not ridden anything and thought it was too much for me, I'm not saying I can push everything to the limit, but have been content riding fast bikes hard. I'm quite content however on around 100bhp. Much more I think the novelty wears off. Lairy 150bhp+ bikes only really get going above 120mph you don't get the chance to use it. Ringing the neck on either of my bikes still gives me a smile.
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

First time I took my 350 powervalve to the redline it was so outside my previous frame of reference (going from an 11bhp Russian 125), I didn't know what to make of it.

At high revs, the bike rode me and did so the whole time I had it. You were effectively a passenger from 7k rpm until the next gear change was needed. Just had to decide if that was something I was happy living with.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the triple a bit twitchy when I got it but now I feel quite at home with it.

Its not that intimidating to be honest, I've definitely felt better on that than my old TL or R1 however it runs out of puff a bit too soon Sad
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Ever bought and a bike and thought this is too much? Reply with quote

I've had the opposite? Smile

When I got my 143 rwhp race zx9r I was hoping for it to be a chunk faster than the road zx6r I had, but instead I just found the experience a bit 'meh'.
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went from a 125cc to a 600cc ZZR and at times it felt like too much

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PostPosted: 19:04 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Striple was a really user friendly bike, I thought it almost steered itself tbh. I had 2 hours on a 2015 Striple-R
demonstrator last year, didn't even want to ride my own bike after that test ride. 2016 will see one on my drive, or I'll
only get out a few times again this year too, after the triple I just couldn't be arsed with my bike for most of the rest of
the year. Wanna swap for my ER6 OP? Wink
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
I bought a 954 'blade and thought it was too powerful, too taut and too hard. It was too much for me.

I'm happy to admit it, it's too much for the road. My street triple R is fine though, even though it has the same power to weight ratio as the early blade.


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PostPosted: 20:27 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I test rode a 954CBR well over 10 years ago. It felt faster than I needed and yet was lighter and more snatchy than the ZX6 I was used to. Nice bike and from Honda's top draw build quality too.

I've felt that 30-35bhp was too much off road on an enduro bike on a fairly technical MX track, but that's a different thing all together.

I imagine if or when I get to ride a Z1300 I will find it too much and the engine too powerful for the chassis and the weight too much to feel confident with, but we'll see.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

andys675 wrote:
you're just de-sensitized to the speed and acceleration

Yep, my bike felt stupidly quick after a (little) 8 month break from riding, think I had just got used to mong cager speeds. Didn't take long to get bored of it again and want more...
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only bike that intimidated me was a KMX500 motocross stroker I had a go on messing about off road. How anyone can ride them at full beans off road is beyond me, don't think I got above 3rd gear!
Had a striple, thought it was a bit meh. Does it have riding modes? I can't remember but just put it in rain if it does, should soften the delivery until you need a bit more.

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PostPosted: 20:57 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^To add. Not all rain modes are equal.
Some reduce power and some reduce the sensitivity of the throttle but still offer full power.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 25 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it worth checking the throttle slack? Are you finding it a bit snatchy?

Reason I ask is because I just removed the throttle slack to the minimum 1mm and I think it's made quite a difference. The throttle is instant, but moreover it's more urgent.
I had about 3-4mm play before and it felt more lazy.


Silver_Fox wrote:
I found the twitchy nature of the Triple scary as a new rider. It wasn't the right bike to do a 3 day tour of Wales mere days after passing my test


Strokes for folks but I was / am the opposite. The street is so light and manoeuvrable it's got me out of quite a few situations. I didn't find it twitchy at all, just very nimble.

As an example, people often suggest an SV650 as a good first bike. I got an SV after a year on the Street and 100% would recommend a Street over an SV as a first bike.

Horses for courses Smile
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