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PostPosted: 11:46 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Mileage and value Reply with quote

So I bought these street triple with about 15k on it, which I thought was ok ish with 5k/yr.

However leisure bikes are apparently only supposed to do 2k a year, is that right?

Doesn't anyone ride their bikes?
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Mileage and value Reply with quote

Samsbike wrote:
So I bought these street triple



How many did you buy?
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Mileage and value Reply with quote

Samsbike wrote:
So I bought these street triple with about 15k on it, which I thought was ok ish with 5k/yr.

However leisure bikes are apparently only supposed to do 2k a year, is that right?

Doesn't anyone ride their bikes?


What a load of crap. I did over 15k miles on my Fazer last year, all leisure use, so mostly fair weather miles, no commuting.

"Leisure bikes" and "supposed to do" ? Rolling Eyes

You do whatever miles you do. I can't see the point in limiting your mileage, what, so you get good resale value? Bikes are for riding.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which bike though? Many of us have several, several of us have many.

I do a 25 mile round trip commute, about 4.5 days a week, 48 weeks a year = 5400 miles.

Divide that by two bikes and sloppy seconds on Mrs Borg's small and medium mummy buses, add in leisure riding, which I do a fair bit less of now that I'm bike commuting more often, divide by pi and subtract the good parts of the Curate's Egg. How many miles per vehicle?

Actually, I know exactly, as the Nazi Tractor was in for its 2nd MOT today. MOT bloke noted that it had done 2,500 miles in a year (2468 to be precise), and that's more than most bikes that he sees in.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Mileage and value Reply with quote

Samsbike wrote:
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However leisure bikes are apparently only supposed to do 2k a year, is that right?



What since when.....

FFS that has got to fall under total bullshit Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I do a 25 mile round trip commute, about 4.5 days a week, 48 weeks a year = 5400 miles.


Surely the commute for a half day is the same distance as the commute for a full day? Wink

I have two bikes, and they do about 9000 a year between them.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

A weekend warrior chariot could easily do under a thousand miles in a year. Fewer if it's wet.

You'll see Harleys[*] that are only ever ridden to get their annual MOT, service and tassel refluffing.

[*] For sale, not on the roads.
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
A weekend warrior chariot could easily do under a thousand miles in a year. Fewer if it's wet.

You'll see Harleys[*] that are only ever ridden to get their annual MOT, service and tassel refluffing.

[*] For sale, not on the roads.


This is true. I know someone with a Harley who rode it twice last year. They have since bought another one ... they now have two tucked up nice and warm in the garage for 11.5 months of the year.

WTF?
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

precisely what I thought. But the dealer would not buy anything over that unless he really knocked the price down
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Mileage and value Reply with quote

When I took one of my bikes for it's MOT last year, (with an embarrisingly small annual mileage since the previous MOT), the tester said the majority of larger cc bikes he sees do very little in terms of annual mileage!
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Mileage and value Reply with quote

Samsbike wrote:
leisure bikes are apparently only supposed to do 2k a year
Bikes are "supposed" to be ridden for as long and as far as you want, as long as they are well maintained and serviced. One could argue that bikes that only do 500 miles a year are not as well maintained, as the consumables may degrade through lack of use, rather than be replaced through wear.
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Mileage and value Reply with quote

Baffler186 wrote:
Samsbike wrote:
leisure bikes are apparently only supposed to do 2k a year
Bikes are "supposed" to be ridden for as long and as far as you want, as long as they are well maintained and serviced. One could argue that bikes that only do 500 miles a year are not as well maintained, as the consumables may degrade through lack of use, rather than be replaced through wear.


I agree, I think stuff sitting around is worse, but keeping an eye on costs people expect low miles or high miles and very low price
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do somewhere about 10k a year, and I've passed on a few bikes in the last few years. I've found buyers to be more concerned about condition than mileage.

Doesn't matter what bike you search for on google though, someone will have sent it around the clocks and it'll be coming back for more.

Had my Multistrada since the middle of December and it's had over 1k put on it already.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I rode my Triple to work I'd be doing 380-400 a week. I'd consider that normal/slightly above for most commuting bikes.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supposed to do 2k a year?

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PostPosted: 17:36 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what you use them for as folk have said. I tend to do about 2k on each of mine per year unless I do long trip, but that's because I can't get out as often as I like because of kids etc. I am typical of the folks I ride with...
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supposition isn't really a problem until it leads to dealers making derisory offers for trade ins, or trying to fob off warranty claims with the risible excuse that "you're riding it too much". We've heard that a few times.

If I had to pick a figure for mean mileage over a typical bike's lifetime, it wouldn't even be as high as 2,000, more like 1,500.

London endurance commuters might skew the numbers a bit, as they often do.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Supposition isn't really a problem until it leads to dealers making derisory offers for trade ins, or trying to fob off warranty claims with the risible excuse that "you're riding it too much". We've heard that a few times.

If I had to pick a figure for mean mileage over a typical bike's lifetime, it wouldn't even be as high as 2,000, more like 1,500.

London endurance commuters might skew the numbers a bit, as they often do.


A great example is this bike - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-Multistrada-1200S-Touring-PART-EXCHANGE-TRADE-SALE-TO-CLEAR-/181963670391?hash=item2a5de14377:g:HO8AAOSwBahVFDfy. It was on eBay last year [at £7500] when I had my GS - about 11 months ago. I phoned up to trade my GS for it (worth about 7.5k trade in at the time). He only offered me 7k, told him to shove it and offered him a good luck with the sale. Place in Glasgow gave me the 7.5k, and he's reduced that by £1300 whilst still unable to shift it. All because it has very high miles on it. There are a fair few Multistradas with that mileage around, but people are holding on to them.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how much teeth sucking he did before offering its owner sweetie money for it.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say buy old bikes only over 10years old, and then mileage is not an issue to affect selling prices once you get to that age really.

I might be wary of buying a sporty two stroke that's done say 50-60k, (not many live that long though) as once a bike has had say half a dozen engine re-build, you can bet things like nuts will be rounded off, studs knackered, and bearing housings getting loose and sloppy maybe. That and many strokers are taken apart and thrown back together by clowns and bodge artists.
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I traded in my 125 Varadero when I passed my test the dealer tried to knock the price down because "15k miles is way too much for a 4 and a half year old bike"

I had to walk out of the showroom and put my lid back on before he had a change of heart and ran out to offer me what I wanted.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

same with low mileage cages... if all it's ever done is hot day to the end of the drive and back then then first time you take it out and open the tapes the engine wont like it...

Ride it for yourself not the next owner...
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike isn't a year old yet and it's got just under 21,000 miles on it.




I'm thinking of washing it soon.


Actually, I'll wait a bit longer.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had the gsxr 1000 a year and have done 2000 miles near enough to the dot.

Company car and a hand full of kids means not much time to ride for fun Sad
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