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stuey2407
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Kriega US 20 or US 30 paired with a couple of US 10's Reply with quote

I am planning a week through Belgium, Luxemburg, Germany and back this summer on my Street Triple and have been doing some research on luggage.

I have narrowed it down to the Kriega range. I like the idea of having either the US20 or US30 with a couple of US10's on either side. This gives some flexibility for shorter trips.

The problem is that I am not sure whether to get the US20 or US30. I am concerned that the US30 may be a little too large. Does anyone any experience of either and could offer their opinion?
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never understood the attraction of Kriega kit in particular, and I got rid of my tail packs and soft panniers in favour of a lightly-packed 25L rucksack plus a selection of dry bags secured by a cargo net. Cheap, light, waterproof, moulds to the bike, maximises space.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did ten days through Europe with a US20 and two US10's strapped either side. Everything packed down really small and everything stayed on the bike even at Autobahn speeds and through several heavy downpours. I managed to fit enough clothes, toiletries and shoes in those but had to dump a couple of things in a mate's topbox. Pro tip - roll your clothes up Thumbs Up

I'm doing a slightly longer trip this year so might invest in the US30 and take the two 10's again but one on the tank and the other on top of the 30.

One of the guys I went with took a big waterproof bag that he bungee'd to the back of his bike that required lots of straps and socks to protect the paintwork whereas the bonus of Kriega stuff is that it attaches directly to the rear subframe and sits on the pillion seat. A big downside that I found was every time you leave the bike parked up overnight you need to take the whole rig off and to get to some of the straps you need to take the side packs off. It got a little tedious at times. Go for a bigger main bag and if possible eliminate the smaller ones.
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 01 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the US30 and a pair of US10s.

They're not too big to be cumbersome or awkward when full. But I suppose it depends what you put in them... better to have a little bit more space and use less of it than a little bit less space and need more of it. They compress down with the straps anyway so you can make the 30 smaller if its not full
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 01 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Llama-Farmer wrote:
They compress down with the straps anyway so you can make the 30 smaller if its not full


This Thumbs Up

Go for the US30. If you pack sensibly and have a bit of storage under the seat, you can (and I have) fit enough in there for 10 days. The 20 is just that bit too small for a week and I know some people regret buying it for that reason. You can just give the 30 an extra roll when closing it up and compress it with the straps if it's not full.

I also have a US10 with a tank adapter to use as a tank bag (plastic tank on the ZX12). I keep my documents, phone, lunch, disc lock etc in there because I know they will be 100% dry and are easy enough to get at.

I know some people don't get Kriega but it is seriously good quality kit, 100% waterproof without the need for any covers and attaches/removes from the bike really easily. The system using the straps attached to the subframe is strong and very stable, nothing moves even at Autobahn speeds of 160ish. Well worth the money.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 01 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone got pics of these all filled and strapped on? Wondering how these subframe straps attach - I don't like the underseat straps of many tail packs, as my seat won't lock down over them.

Think I might need to invest in some new luggage. I'm not sure whether to go for these or something like the Lomo bags, for strapping to the pillion seat.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 01 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w462/MattB70/Eurojolly%20July%202015/WP_20150713_11_49_05_Pro_zpss8qjcwje.jpg

Picture taken on the B500 Chickenstrip Wink

There is a totally full US30 on the back of the ZX12. Has a cargo net over it for putting wet t-shirts under to dry (it hit 42 degrees) and the white thing is a towel.

Sorry I don't have a closer shot but it gives you an idea.

The straps go under the pillion pad or seat and attach around the subframe leaving just a small loop sticking out past the seat. There are then another set of straps that hook into these, clip to the pack and compress down. To remove the pack you just release the tension and unclip 4 hooks. Simple and fast.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 01 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kriega is fantastic gear.

A US30 filled to the brim had everything I could need for a week away.

The fitting system is so simple yet so overlooked. Worked perfect on my seat which if you know is a one piece that tapers towards the rear

EDIT: Here's a full 30 litre with a waterproof suit on top with a cargo net.

https://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr163/TgaTrucker/Mobile%20Uploads/image_20.jpg
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 01 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are planning on going for a US30 and a couple of 10's/20's

Buy the bundles, they are a bit cheaper.

Also, most of the places I went to order from were out of stock and had ridiculous dates. Went to Kriega direct, not a lot of difference in price and came within a day or so! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 01 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

wots wrote:
If you are planning on going for a US30 and a couple of 10's/20's

Buy the bundles, they are a bit cheaper.

Also, most of the places I went to order from were out of stock and had ridiculous dates. Went to Kriega direct, not a lot of difference in price and came within a day or so! Thumbs Up


I have found a good price for the bundle which includes the US30 from a UK store and it is in stock. Was hoping Infinity would price match but they won't budge.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 01 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

How big is the rear seat on the street triple? This is a nearly fully packed US30 on the rear seat of a CB400, which is a generous size.

https://i.imgur.com/VDP7o2t.jpg

As you can see, the US30 is a big bastard! If you're not taking camping stuff, then a US20 and 2x US10's might be ok, depending how light you pack.

I'll be camping this year and the US30 will hold 90% my camping stuff (decent sleeping bag, 3 man backpacking tent and a self inflating camping mat), then 2x US20's on either side will hold clothes, a pair of shoes, a brukit (jetboil), and other 'normal' stuff, then a 21 litre (when expanded) tank bag for phone/wallet/tablet/waterproofs/food/water etc - 2 weeks away with this set up should be easy.

I did a test run with the US30 and an R30 and the tank bag late last summer, and although there was enough space the combination of 30l rucksack and 30l tailbag meant I was forced to lean forward so not the most comfortable of body positions. The US70 combo should be perfect.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have recently bought a us 30,20 and a ten off ebay for £190( bought separately btw) all look as good as new so will be taking these this year, 30 and 20 on the rear and the 10 on the tank. Straps were easy to fit to the subframe so there is no strain on the seat catch
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuey2407 wrote:
wots wrote:
If you are planning on going for a US30 and a couple of 10's/20's

Buy the bundles, they are a bit cheaper.

Also, most of the places I went to order from were out of stock and had ridiculous dates. Went to Kriega direct, not a lot of difference in price and came within a day or so! Thumbs Up


I have found a good price for the bundle which includes the US30 from a UK store and it is in stock. Was hoping Infinity would price match but they won't budge.

have you tried MCA in Leicester, good prices and free delivery over £100
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Anyone got pics of these all filled and strapped on? Wondering how these subframe straps attach - I don't like the underseat straps of many tail packs, as my seat won't lock down over them.

Think I might need to invest in some new luggage. I'm not sure whether to go for these or something like the Lomo bags, for strapping to the pillion seat.

You can just see the straps sticking out from under the pillion seat;
https://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x433/threeballs1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160202_193833.jpg
https://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x433/threeballs1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160202_193824.jpg
Loaded and attached;
https://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x433/threeballs1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160202_194610.jpg
https://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x433/threeballs1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160202_194631.jpg
all seem to fit very nice and secure, pockets on top and bottom of each bag that will fit my lock n chain and they still fit on the tiny pillion of the Tuono. I might not need the 30 and 20 but as said before if they aren't full they will easily squash down
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave V4 wrote:

You can just see the straps sticking out from under the pillion seat;


It's just that I've tried an old Oxford tailpack, and the problem on the Fazer was where the strap goes over the lip on the tail unit of the bike, seems to prevent the seat from dropping enough to latch in place. Those Kriega straps do look a bit thinner though. Not sure whether to take the risk and order.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

want a picture of the strap on its own? also was it you who asked about airhawk seats?
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 03 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave V4 wrote:
want a picture of the strap on its own? also was it you who asked about airhawk seats?


Do you have a pic of the straps fitted with the seat off? no, not me on the airhawk.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 03 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The straps are about 30cm long so with your Fazer seat being thicker than the Tuono's you could extend the buckle part out out so that you only have the thin webbing straps between your seat and rear fairing.

https://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x433/threeballs1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160203_120930.jpg
https://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x433/threeballs1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160203_120949.jpg
probably easier to see in their own fitting guide tbh;

https://www.kriega.com/us20-drypack/
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 03 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks for that. I reckon they'll be alright, so I'll give it a shot.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 04 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used an Oxford expandable tail pack the other year while riding around France,whereas my friend utilised a Kriega 20 and a 10 (I think).The only reason I took a tank bag was for instant access to money,camera,waterproofs and a map in the transparent bit on the top

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Biking%20Abroad/Picture010_zps50729017.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 04 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kriega tailpacks and luggage are second to none imo, its expensive but its worth it when its contents stay dry, fits your bike perfectly, doesn't wreck the paint or pillion seat when it rubs against it for an extended trip and the modular stacking of adding additional tailpacks to it.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 04 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liam_ wrote:
Kriega tailpacks and luggage are second to none imo, its expensive but its worth it when its contents stay dry, fits your bike perfectly, doesn't wreck the paint or pillion seat when it rubs against it for an extended trip and the modular stacking of adding additional tailpacks to it.


Definitely agree, they are so versatile and do their job very well Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 04 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still unsure if the US 30 would be too large for the Striple. I don't like the idea if it sitting against my back.
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 05 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

W-where's all your stuff?!

https://i.imgur.com/ns9p6xO.jpg

I managed to fill a bergan, two panniers (made from E. german backpacks) and a topbox....... Mr. Green

To be fair about half the bergan is my wetsuit...
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 05 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuey2407 wrote:
I am still unsure if the US 30 would be too large for the Striple. I don't like the idea if it sitting against my back.


Then mount it round the other way - across the seat. They can be used in either direction. Pillion seat on a Striple is pretty big compared to some of the pads on most recent sports bikes, should not be a problem.

Pic of random internet dude with US30 on a Striple :

https://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff90/doggy675/4d6268a8-9c43-4461-b0b4-f82d6c7256ba_zps85c077a3.jpg
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