module 1 flip-up helmet

[charlieh777]

is it frowned upon to do the slow riding parts of module 1 with a flip-up helmet in the up position?

[Matt B]

CBT instructor will probably tell you that riding with a modular lid flipped up is the same as riding without a helmet, because they aren't designed to be used like that...

Draw your own conclusions but I wouldn't.
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[Holdawayt]

My AGV Compact and Caberg Duke are most certainly designed to be used with the lip flipped up. Not that I ever would... I use them for buying petrol etc without them kicking up a fuss.

As long as the chin strap can be locked in the upright position you'll be ok. They are tested for safety in both positions. If it's a non-lockable one then no, you'll need to wear it like a full face helmet.

As far as Mod 1 goes, I'd rather get used to riding with a full helmet anyway. I can't really see the benefit in flicking the chin guard up.

[talkToTheHat]

You might get away with it, but you might make your assessor frown and not get the benefit of some later doubt.
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[someotherguy]

I agree with the previous post. I reckon it's the same as turning up in jeans - I'd rather DSA "Safety First" Derek have a positive perception if it came down to something marginal.

[Rogerborg]

[KnightsFall]

I've had an instructor tell me that I would need to do mod 1 with it closed, although I am not 100% certain if the knew I was wearing a lid certified for use with it open. I'd assume that you will be told to close it but there is no harm in asking the examiner on the day, or so I would imagine.

[Rogerborg]

[Holdawayt]

I wasn't aware that some helmets aren't tested in both positions! Either way, my two are and I still wouldn't ride with them open. It was more for scratching an itchy nose at lights, chatting to the neighbours without removing the helmet every time and buying petrol without being asked to remove it.

The thought of landing on my chin with it open makes me shudder.

[KnightsFall]

[andyscooter]

buy an open faced cheapy one and wear that on the day
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[Rogerborg]

[Holdawayt]

I shall have a look for you when I'm home good sir.

[Matt B]

While we await the answer...

I remember seeing the Emergency Biker Paramedic guys (on the TV) riding round with their fronts flipped up a few times. They were in various situations - riding through pedestrian areas, shopping centres, platforms of train stations. If they do it, it must be OK surely?


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[Holdawayt]

Here we go.

https://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o317/Holdawayt/D3D8C059-A627-4684-A323-728D8E1550C9_zpsbg9o0qvv.jpg

[Holdawayt]

It's all gone a bit quiet...

[bugeye_bob]

https://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/caberg-duke/review.htm

"In fact, Caberg has probably done more to evolve and improve flip-up and "modular" helmets than any other manufacturer I can think of.

For example, Caberg pioneered the P/J dual-homologation feature on their flip-up helmets like the Caberg Sintesi (review).

This is an ECE certification that the helmet can be worn either as a full-face, with the rotating flip-up visor down and locked, or as a "Jet" style helmet with the rotating visor rotated up and locked."

"Rotating Flip-up Visor
The rotating flip-up visor opens by pressing a large rubberized button in the front. There's nothing to grab with the thumb when the button is pressed, other than the bottom edge of the chin bar. As the visor is raised, it offers no resistance until it hits a very stiff detent at the top of its range, where it clicks into place with a solid "thunk".

Since the Duke is both P and J homologated, it is legal to ride in Europe with the flip-up visor in the raised position. This is controlled with a spring-loaded lock on the left-hand side, just behind the face shield.

If the slider is pushed towards the front, in the "J" position (a P and J are molded into the plastic), the flip-up visor will rotate up but then lock in the raised position. To release it, you must snap the slider all the way back into its detent, which will release the visor so you can close the helmet.

If you're not planning on riding with the flip-up visor in the raised position, push the slider all the way back until it snaps into the "P" position. Now the flip-up visor can be raised or lowered and it will pause only in the detent at the fully raised position.

It took me a few tries to figure it out, but the system works well and feels very solid and it's what has allowed Caberg to obtain the dual homologation for the Duke."

[Holdawayt]

Is there anything like that regarding the AGV Compact? As the label that I posted was from my AGV, not the duke.

[Bigvern72]

My instructor advised me it was frowned upon to wear the flip visor up. While not illegal the examiner is looking for safety as well as competence and after all.....they're humans and thus are subject to mood swings for very little reason.

Better to wear it down for the 10 mins it takes and then the 30 mins it takes for mod 2......than to risk your money on the whim of a mood swing.

[Ste]

[KnightsFall]

[Rogerborg]

[DVSA Derek]

We would just ask you to put the flip down.
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[Rogerborg]

[KnightsFall]

Well I passed my mod1 anyways, cold and all. One step closer.

Kept the front down and did not ask to do otherwise. I generally have no problem with it but do quite like to pole around at low speed with it up from time to time.