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PostPosted: 20:15 - 06 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: eyesight test Reply with quote

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I am borderline being able to read a numberplate at 20m without glasses. is it possible to attempt it without glasses then if i fail to take a pair of glasses out of my pocket for the second attempt?


If you need to wear glasses to drive, use them to drive.

If I find out that you need to wear glasses to drive and don't, you won't see me coming when I kick you stoutly in the gentleman's vegetables.

I'm assuming that you can't read what I've posted...
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 06 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in the same situation, and attempted it without glasses (to this forums displeasure Wink). I actually read the plate wrong (read an M as a W or something), there was only one car in the car park so I guess there wasn't another to try with or the examiner didn't care... or couldn't read it himself Smile

Had a similar experience on my car test, although he got me to read another plate. Personally if your visions borderline (as mine is) I'd attempt it without, as you don't want it to be a condition of your license. If you're really struggling put them on but maybe style it out (like you forgot to put them on or something).
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 06 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why wouldn't you want it recorded that you need glasses on your licence? If you need them to drive, you need to wear them every time you drive or ride.
I wear glasses and I wouldn't dream of driving without them. I don't even like riding my mountain bike without them, and it's not a legal requirement for cycling on the road.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 06 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what's up with your eyesight. With mine it's astigmatism, not short or long sightedness, and being tired seems to make it worse. I get tested at work and pass them, so I don't want to have to wear glasses.
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 06 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: eyesight test Reply with quote

charlieh777 wrote:
I am borderline being able to read a numberplate at 20m without glasses. is it possible to attempt it without glasses then if i fail to take a pair of glasses out of my pocket for the second attempt?


Really?
This has to the most stupid fucking question I have ever read.
You should take the test while not wearing your glasses, I hope you pass.

When you crash and die because you didn't see death up ahead you will have removed yourself from the gene pool, I just hope you don't take anyone else with you.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 06 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: eyesight test Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
charlieh777 wrote:
I am borderline being able to read a numberplate at 20m without glasses. is it possible to attempt it without glasses then if i fail to take a pair of glasses out of my pocket for the second attempt?


Really?
This has to the most stupid fucking question I have ever read.
You should take the test while not wearing your glasses, I hope you pass.

When you crash and die because you didn't see death up ahead you will have removed yourself from the gene pool, I just hope you don't take anyone else with you.


Totally agree with this
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 06 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: eyesight test Reply with quote

charlieh777 wrote:
I am borderline being able to read a numberplate at 20m without glasses. is it possible to attempt it without glasses then if i fail to take a pair of glasses out of my pocket for the second attempt?


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PostPosted: 00:45 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you get fined for failure to declare glasses before you smidsy someone. If you need glasses, wear them. If they are distance only and you cant see your phone, take that as a useful reminder to not check facebook whilst operating a motor vehicle.
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PostPosted: 06:49 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you cause a death due to not wearing glasses when you should, the courts will have you.

And I wouldn't be surprised if your insurance told you to fuck off under the circumstances too.
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The practical driving test eyesight test
At the start of your practical driving test you have to correctly read a number plate on a parked vehicle.

If you can’t, you’ll fail your driving test and the test won’t continue. DVLA will be told and your licence will be revoked.
When you reapply for your driving licence, DVLA will ask you to have an eyesight test with DVSA. This will be at a driving test centre. If you’re successful, you’ll still have to pass the DVSA standard eyesight test at your next practical driving test.

https://www.gov.uk/driving-eyesight-rules
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ you get 3 attempts. On the 3rd attempt they get the tape measure out and if you still can't read the plate you fail.

I think the OP should have emphasised the borderline bit. You can have glasses and still be 'OK' for driving.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 minute hate seems to be rolling on a bit here.

It's a reasonable enough question. OP's not suggesting that he'll ride without corrective vision, just that he doesn't want to have it on his license. Consider the case of doing the test with glasses then getting laser correction - how would you get the code removed?

I'd be honest with the DVSA Derek. Try without, then put them on. I mean, how else do you know that you need glasses? That's what the eyesight test is meant to find out.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

He could try reading some number plates at the prescribed distance, and further, and work out for himself whether his eyesight is up to it.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
OP's not suggesting that he'll ride without corrective vision, just that he doesn't want to have it on his license.


There is no other reason for not wanting to have a "Corrective vision needed" marker on a license.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corrective eye surgery
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Corrective eye surgery

Why not wait until after the surgery to take the test?

Or

test, then surgery, then inform DVSA
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your eyesight is borderline needing glasses to drive then you really ought to be wearing glasses.
You need it to be 6/12 (which is 20/40 vision in non-metric) which is pretty bad vision... if its near that you should be wearing glasses or contacts whether you legally need to or not.



At my most recent 5-yearly ophthalmic review for my medical renewal, my uncorrected vision was 6/6-1 OD, 6/10-1 OS... and 6/6 OU.

Outside the limits for flying, so I require glasses for that, but well within the limits for driving.

My glasses give me a corrected vision of 6/5 OD, 6/5 OS, 6/4-1 OU... i.e. "better than 20/20 vision", and it makes such a difference. Even though my eyesight is marginally bad and much better than required for driving, wearing glasses is a massive improvement, and I do so when driving and riding now as well. Through choice, not obligation.


I cannot imagine wanting to driving or ride without glasses if my eyesight was anywhere near as bad as 6/12.
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
There is no other reason for not wanting to have a "Corrective vision needed" marker on a license.

There is if you go to France and they do you both for not wearing your lenses or glasses, and for not having a spare pair of glasses on you (and you must have glasses even if you wear contact lenses).

Cheer up, it's likely that he won't take anyone with him.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
arry wrote:
Corrective eye surgery

Why not wait until after the surgery to take the test?

Or

test, then surgery, then inform DVSA


Realistically who waits?

Or

What happens when you inform DVLA? What does the testing look like? Has anyone ever done that?

Bear in mind how many people there were or are nervous about entitlement loss for sending their licence off for a humble change of address
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
What happens when you inform DVLA? What does the testing look like? Has anyone ever done that?

Probably a question for the DVSA to answer.

arry wrote:
Bear in mind how many people there were or are nervous about entitlement loss for sending their licence off for a humble change of address

2010 just called... it wants it's drama back.
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
CaNsA wrote:
There is no other reason for not wanting to have a "Corrective vision needed" marker on a license.

There is if you go to France and they do you both for not wearing your lenses or glasses, and for not having a spare pair of glasses on you (and you must have glasses even if you wear contact lenses).

Cheer up, it's likely that he won't take anyone with him.


That's like the requirements for flying.

"VDL - Shall wear corrective lenses and carry a spare set of spectacles"


Basically means I can correct my vision with lenses (either contacts or glasses), and carry a spare pair of glasses as well... incase the first pair break or you have problems with your contact lenses. One pair must be clear lensed, so the other can be prescription sunnies, which they are.

I wouldn't be surprised if the EU slip this law in through the back door with regards to driving as well. It's a lot less illogical than some of the other ones being brought in.
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
arry wrote:
What happens when you inform DVLA? What does the testing look like? Has anyone ever done that?

Probably a question for the DVSA to answer.

arry wrote:
Bear in mind how many people there were or are nervous about entitlement loss for sending their licence off for a humble change of address

2010 just called... it wants it's drama back.


I'm sure DVSA will do a stand up job of confirming.

Do you trust them now then? On something fairly uncommon and therefore with room for error? Not sure I would

Do also bear in mind he's only got to pass the sight test unaided. He hasn't got to take the test thereafter without sight correction. An honest 'I'd just scrape it' is much better than a 'don't know what you're talking about my eyes are fine' 80 year old Doris
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Do you trust them now then? On something fairly uncommon and therefore with room for error? Not sure I would


I've had many dealings with the DVLA/DVSA/DSA or what ever they want to be called, and never had a problem.

Have you?
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 07 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure why i am getting such a negative reaction. I have never worn glasses in my life i passed the sight test on my cbt without glasses. Just when i started my training i found it quite hard to read it without glasses but it was possibly further away then 20m. If i pass the test with or without glasses i will have passed the legal eyesight requirement to ride. The fact i can read it without wearing glasses means my eyes arent bad. It was a reasonable question I would rather try and pass without glasses and have glasses ready on the off chance I cant then to take it with glasses if my eyes are fine and have the glasses endorsement on my license when it wasnt neccsary. Obviously if i need glasses to pass the test i will wear them when riding if i pass.
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