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.Bishbash.
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Chains Reply with quote
Bought a chain, went to fit it to my bike, but it's a bit short as I have a 49 tooth rear sprocket on it, it would fit standard.

Question: I have spare links. Can you have two rivit links on the chain? I am a little dubious over doing it. Spider senses are tingling and all that.
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
But how would it work with rivet links? They join 2 (internal) end bits of the chain, to fit another rivet link you would have to remove a link. No gain unless you mean you have a new length of chain?

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.Bishbash.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yup, I have a spare link off another chain and a spare rivet link both the right pitch and type etc, ready to fit, when I actually thought about what I was doing, I wondered about the strength and held off.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Is this for the R6 or the Gixxer?

Would the R6 get through scrutineering with two rivet links? Don't know if I would trust it on the Gixxer, or the R6 TBH.
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.Bishbash.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's for the R6, and it probably would pass, not had my chain thoroughly checked before. But, I would be thinking more of it breaking and missing out on the race....oh and my safety of course.

Had a search about on the web, and there's mixed reviews, I read on one forum, some chap had 4 links on one chain Shocked Shocked Just hoping that was a 125. Laughing

Currently leaning towards buying a new chain.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
The potential outcome far outweighs the savings imo
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alice Cooper speaks many words of wisdom on the subject of chains, take his advice Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I assume those shitting their pants only ever use endless chains?

Why would 2 be any weaker than 1?

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PostPosted: 14:19 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
DrDonnyBrago wrote:
I assume those shitting their pants only ever use endless chains?

Why would 2 be any weaker than 1?


I was thinking this too, the chain is only as strong as it's strongest link, and a single rivet link is deemed strong enough to take the full load.

There is probably a slightly increased risk of breakage, in that there are now two rivet links that could let go. The risk of one rivet link letting go is very small though, so doubling a very small risk is still a very small risk.
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.Bishbash.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
smegballs wrote:
The chain is only as strong as it's strongest link


This is the exact phrase that stopped me from doing it. In theory I would be doubling the 'weakest link odds' if I were to use it, no?
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
A properly riveted link is just as strong as any other link. The question is whether you can do it properly, twice.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bishbash II wrote:
smegballs wrote:
The chain is only as strong as it's strongest link


This is the exact phrase that stopped me from doing it. In theory I would be doubling the 'weakest link odds' if I were to use it, no?


Yeah but those odds themselves are really small as a rivet link has to be able to take the stress without failure, if a single link was that unreliable in the first place then it would have no place on a motorcycle.

If the odds of failure are 0.001% and you double those odds to 0.002% the risk has doubled in relative terms, but the absolute risk is still very small.

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The question is whether you can do it properly, twice.


Could you change a chain and sprockets safely twice? I have done so and not dieded yet.
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.Bishbash.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Valid points.

Might swing by a mechanics I know for a bit of advice as i am a little torn.
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