Bandit won't start, need advice please

j1mster · Derestricted Danger Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Karma :

G'day all,
looking for a bit of advice please. All of a sudden my SK5 Bandit won't start. Battery is good (have also tried jump start from car), checked fuse at battery block and ignition fuse, all look OK.

All lights, indicators, hazards, heated grips work. When I press the ignition switch, the only thing that happens is that the lights dim. No sound, click or spark/turn over.

Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, Jim
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Nobby the Bastard · Harley Gaydar Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :

Seized engine....
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j1mster · Derestricted Danger Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Karma :

j1mster · Derestricted Danger Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Karma :

Have just tried 'shorting' starter switch and clutch switch, no difference
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Nobby the Bastard · Harley Gaydar Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :

If the lights dim when you are pressing the switch, I would say that power is getting to the starter motor, but for whatever reason it's not actually turning.
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andys675 · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Karma :

voltage?

amps?
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monkeybiker · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Sep 2014 Karma :

Could be a fooked stater motor.

Can you push start it?

Beehive Bedlam · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Oct 2013 Karma :

Try to jump start and report back to me.

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Robby · Dirty Old Man Joined: 16 May 2002 Karma :

Did you short out the switch or the starter relay?

If you haven't tried shorting the starter relay and the battery is healthy, that is your next job. Peel back the rubber covers on the two poles and short them with a good size screwdriver. Expect lots of sparks and the engine to turn over nicely.

Then try the button again. Sometimes shorting out the relay persuades it to start playing ball. Otherwise replace the relay.

Nobby the Bastard · Harley Gaydar Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :

I wouldn't have thought that a fucked solenoid would result in dimmed lights. The dimmed lights indicate that the starter motor is drawing power.
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Diggs · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Karma :

If it is the solenoid you'd usually get a clicking noise when you push the starter. Sounds like the starter motor has seized for some reason. If it were me I'd take a couple of mates and bump it down that hill. Sit on the bike, ignition on, second gear with the clutch in, get mates to push you until you have a bit of speed up then let the clutch out. If it doesn't start, get said mates to help you push the bike home again, then take the starter motor out...
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bugeye_bob · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Karma :

clutch switch or side stand switch, clutch switches are very common.

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andys675 · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Karma :

sounds like the battery

you say it's ok but have no multimeter

you need to drop test it

my triple's battery was the same, showed good voltage but had no amps due to poor conditioning when new, tried to jump it and nothing

battery with good voltage can still have no amps, no cranking power
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talkToTheHat · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Feb 2012 Karma :

Try a +ve jump lead directly to the starter motor side of the starter relay, connect the negative to a good earth somewhere in the bike. If all spins, starter relay at fault.

Give the starter motor some percussive maintenance in case it is a stuck brush.

Remove starter motor, place in vice or otherwise hold securely. Attempt to operate with bike/car batteries and jump leads.

If starter motor spins outside of bike but not in bike, it's engine trouble.

If the starter motor wont spin outside bike, you have your culprit.
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