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Korlad
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: YBR 125 misfiring Reply with quote

Just put new carb on my '05 YBR, new plug and battery. Misfires badly and fouls plug very fast. Using lots of gas too. I'm not much of a mechanic. Any suggestions for getting her running right? I'm on a remote island and parts are hard to come by.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did you put a new carb on it?
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unexpected lengthy trip to the states and it got gunked up. New carb is half what a rebuild kit costs. Orings and such are always a problem. When I returned it had started, but the jet needle stuck and flooded the crankcase and air filter with gas on the very short trip around the block. (Yes, I changed the oil). When I saw how bad the 'rings were, I just ordered a new carb. Parts are a bitch in this country.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Re: YBR 125 misfiring Reply with quote

Korlad wrote:
Any suggestions for getting her running right?.


Learn the basics of a carburettor and how the adjustments work. Do some research on, 'BRAND NEW CARB DONT WORK WTF, I REPLACED IT, IT SHUD WORKEST'.
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korlad wrote:
...I just ordered a new carb. Parts are a bitch in this country.


Where did you source said carb? Thinking
I would be questioning if it has the correct jet sizing or if it is even the correct carb for starters.

If the only problem with the old carb was the rubber seals, clean it and switch the "new" seals over to your old carb?
Learning how to clean carbs is fundamental brah.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I CAN rebuild a carb. But getting the new jets, needle and seat, orings, and the basics that you replace during a proper rebuild costs TWICE what a new carb does.
This definitely sounds like a carb issue? I'm concerned that the gas in the oil may have created issues in the cylinder perhaps?
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can rebuild the carb, then next time, just take it apart and clean it. You nearly never need brand new parts to clean the carb. Buy a carburetor cleaner and have some fun.

No, you have not damaged anything around by swapping the carb. The petrol in the oil issue must have been there earlier. Although, if the float was stuck and the fuel tap was set to ON, it could leaked though the carb into the engine.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in the tropics and our gas sux. Combine tropical heat with that and orings don't last here. I've lived here for 17 years and know how rubber deteriorates. I DID take it apart before I ordered a new one. If anyone has any suggestions on what I might try to get the bike running better, as opposed to bashing my meager mechanical abilities, I'd be beholden. I've adjusted the idle stop screw down and the throttle cable is at the correct tension. Main jet adjusting screw next? Again, is this definitely a carb issue?
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is 100% carb. Are the jets correct? Is it the right carb?
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 07 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the right carb for this bike. Looks just like the one I took off. How it's jetted, dunno?
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PostPosted: 00:02 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jets typically have their numbers engraved into them.
Only way to tell is crack that carb open again.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can YOU reel off the numbers of YOUR carbs"s jet?
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korlad wrote:
Can YOU reel off the numbers of YOUR carbs"s jet?


No, but if I were to change all 4 of the carbs on my exup, I'd make sure that the replacements had exactly the same jetting.

Note that I said "if". I would probably clean out teh old ones first and only spend out for a new one when it became absolutely necessary.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you not read the entire thread? Particularly in reference to the price of parts on a small island in the Bahamas? I'm just looking for some help...getting the carb I have tuned, if that's the problem. I'm not an ace mechanic and I had this idea that folks on the forum might share their knowledge and experience. If I WAS an ace mechanic, I wouldn't need any help.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korlad wrote:
I CAN rebuild a carb.


Korlad wrote:
It's the right carb for this bike. Looks just like the one I took off. How it's jetted, dunno?


Well I was amused. Thumbs Up Wink
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

So when you buy a new carb, you pull the jets and check the numbers against the one you removed???
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korlad wrote:
Did you not read the entire thread?




Yes, I did.

Korlad wrote:


I'm not an ace mechanic and I had this idea that folks on the forum might share their knowledge and experience.


They did. They said clean the old one with carb cleaner
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

And replace the bad orings with what?
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korlad wrote:
And replace the bad orings with what?


Commuter_Tim wrote:

...and switch the "new" seals over to your old carb?


?

Or alternatively take the jets out of the old carb and put in the new?

If nothing else, either of the above will help diagnostically.

Korlad wrote:
So when you buy a new carb, you pull the jets and check the numbers against the one you removed???

Absolutely.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I have rebuilt other carburetors in the past, the rebuild kits usually include new jets, orings and gasket. To assume that the jets are fine after a few years in the tropics is not, IMHO, wise. This carb has a main jet adjustment screw. Think I'll try that before I build frankencarb.
Our gas here can be questionable as well. May drain the tank and refuel. We had a bad hurricane last fall and word is that some stations got water in their tanks.
I'm just not certain that such a simple carb could have arrived new with the wrong jets. Does that happen often?
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could, take off the carburetor that's on the motorcycle at the moment, take off the carb bowl and check for any slime in there. If you find slime, even slime balls, then you've got water in the fuel. Do you run a fuel filter?

EDIT: Water in fuel won't cause misfiring, it'll only create slimeballs in the bowl of the carburetor, that gets sucked into the jet under load, blocking it.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not definitely a carb issue, could be inlet, wrong air filter or battery/spark problems but from what you've said it sounds like a carb issue.

If you had some carb cleaner you could spray it on the intake/inlet manifold to check Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, maybe your situation and weather might be some of the cause see below








and the site can be found at
https://www.iwt.com.au/mikunicarb.htm
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 08 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although it says the correction factor for the current air temps is .98 (no change in jet sizes), that site has a ton of good info. Thank you very much!
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