FZS 600 Won't start off the button.

[Beehive Bedlam]

Leaving work this afternoon my bike fired up first time off the button but cut out (cold engine) plus I wasn't quite ready to take off had to restart my extreme filtering playlist on my ipod.

When I was ready I went to start it and it wouldn't fire up I was baffled for a few moments and thought it was the kill switch it wasn't. Removed my helmet to investigate still nothing so removed the seat and quickly checked the fuses all fine. Tried again sounded like a flat battery one click when the starter button is pressed.

Decided to bump it and it started. Got back home killed the engine to open garage door went back to bike same as before just a click.

Battery has showed no signs of being fucked and usually starts first time every time with a bit of choke off the button.

I've got the battery on charge at the moment and don't have a multimeter.

Diagnosis?

[chris-red]

Knackered spark plug.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Do you have a multimeter?
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Flat battery.

[dansp1]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Well, he best go out and get one then.
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[Beehive Bedlam]

I have borrowed a multimeter.

Ignition off.
https://i.imgur.com/W5ImnE0.jpg

Ignition on.
https://i.imgur.com/Pbm1eSb.jpg

Looks like a healthy battery to me?

Note - battery has been on an oxford optimiser 600 for almost two hours but still fails to start.

Video of problem.
https://sendvid.com/s5202jjq

What next?

[Nobby the Bastard]

Battery looks fine.

Next, bypasss the solenoid with a suitably thick bit of metal between the two big thick wires on it. One will go from the battery and the other to the starter motor.
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[Nemo]

What happens if you put a screwdriver across the terminals of the starter solenoid?
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Do I point out that 'tard better be careful not to ground the piece of metal whilst doing these sort of shinanegans, otherwise he'll learn how to weld a screwdriver to a bike frame?

Not on a par with sproket, but it will be a giggle to hear about it.
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[Beehive Bedlam]

So you think the solenoid is FUBAR?

[Nobby the Bastard]

I don't know if the solenoid is fucked or not.

hence the diagnostic test.

Try and carry it out without welding the screwdriver to your bike.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Oh god (i), the tension is palpable here.

Will he successfully bypass the soleniod and start (or not start) the bike or will he weld a 3 foot stilson to his bike...
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[garth]

If it's not the solenoid you could try tapping the starter motor to see if it's seized up.
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https://i.imgur.com/Z46E8vv.jpg

Gave the wires a good wiggle removed the two 30A fuses which were in tact put them back and as if by magic.

https://sendvid.com/aiak1pce

I'm going to clean all the connectors with WD40 is this the likely cause of the problem here corroded shit? Or is this simply a polite warning to tell me I should purchase replacement solenoid because it's going to shit its self any day now?

[Nemo]

One of those fuses is a spare, incase you was wondering why there was 2
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[RhynoCZ]

[Beehive Bedlam]

The bike wouldn't start again this morning until I removed the seat and gave the relay a poke and wiggle it has been fine all week.

I suppose this means the relay is fucked. I've done nothing to it bar a squirt of WD when the problem first made its self known.

Is there a life time to this item? There's a couple on ebay used or should I buy new?

[RhynoCZ]

So you did nothing at all and the problem didn't fix itself?

Buy a brand new part.

Did you at least try to do what I was talking about? Clean, bypass...
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[P.addy]

Take it off, give it a thorough clean up and a few light taps to make sure its not just sticky inside.

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[RhynoCZ]

Are you sure you don't want to give it a 30 minutes, to clean it? Anyway, yes, it is a generic part (4YR819400200 - the internet says).
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[andyscooter]

Rhynocz

Only prob with half your advice is its bodyguard

He hasn't got any mates to hep him(his own words)
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