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mudcow007
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Over run burble Reply with quote

Noticed this morning, when i sometimes come off the throttle on my bike it makes a lovely pop, bang burble..

What causes this?

It doesnt happen all the time, its normally slowing down after going fast-ish

is it unburnt fuel or something?
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

its just the excess coolness working its way out.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

my last superduke did this, absolutely loved it.

i presume its excess fuel being burnt off but sure someone with more knowledge will be here soon.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it's just unburnt fuel igniting inside a hot exhaust. If you watch BSB or WSBK you've probably seen flames shooting out on the overrun. You should hear the 1200 Bandit with a stubby on.
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely love the bangs and pops from the triple, open cans and close throttle at 8k rpm... popopopopopbumbumbumbumbum
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My ER6 started it doing it on the stock can, discovered an exhaust leak, stopped doing it once I fixed that. If it's just started and you are on a stock can, or nothing aggressive (as above), might be worth checking.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
popopopopopbumbumbumbumbum
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Bandit does this on closing the throttle and it has Beowulf end can.

However... and maybe someone can explain this one... the Blackbird does not do this and it has a full akra exhaust (so no catalytic converter) with pc3 and o2 eliminator installed.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is on my Bandit 6 with a scorpion can on, im not gonna lie i think it sounds awesome...
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CB-1 I had, was equipped with the factory fitted exhaust system. It was not burping, it just accumulated enough fuel in the system and then made only one very loud bang with a lot of flame coming out of the can. It kind of sounded like a rifle shot. Those were the days... Thumbs Up Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Enfield has now shot 2 baffles out of the back of its exhaust. The third one is holding for now, but I feel that it's physically rejecting them.

The Tractor was ever so efficiently subdued, so I bought a damaged end can, hacked half of it out and now it's got a roguish growl and gurgle. I'm mullering the fuelling though, it feels down on torque at low revs. Fourth Reich First world problems.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
This is on my Bandit 6 with a scorpion can on, im not gonna lie i think it sounds awesome...


my Bandit 6 started doing this when I had a hole in the exhaust. Sounded so good I left it for a while Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

inline4 wrote:
My Bandit does this on closing the throttle and it has Beowulf end can.

However... and maybe someone can explain this one... the Blackbird does not do this and it has a full akra exhaust (so no catalytic converter) with pc3 and o2 eliminator installed.


The reason your blackbird doesn't do this is that your power commander has been adjusted so that it fuels better than stock, and thus reducing 'wasted fuel' on overrun..... My gsxr600 is exactly the same. Titanium headers, no cat, and an exhaust that's barely able to be called that, and no popping! I miss the noise, so I may just adjust fuelling to dump a little bit extra in on the overrun, and thus spit some flames!
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

wots wrote:
My ER6 started it doing it on the stock can, discovered an exhaust leak, stopped doing it once I fixed that. If it's just started and you are on a stock can, or nothing aggressive (as above), might be worth checking.


My ER6 made almost zero noise on the stock can under about 5k revs.
Made a few people jump when I pulled up next to them in car parks and they didn't hear me coming.
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like this?

Love my stubby on the bike. But yes, as mentioned above, it's unburnt fuel basically exploding in your pipe. Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My SV
https://youtu.be/6fHE1yNk0js?t=42

Striple more like
https://youtu.be/9lVvgc45Y4w?t=604
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grom + free flowing exhaust + multistory car park = Laughing

Vtec superfour and Gullarm stubbies provide a few nice thwaps on the overrun too...
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's running lean.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
It's running lean.

MY zzr1200 with stubby pipes used to do this big time on the over run and the fuelling was spot on, I thought it sounded awesome.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My BMW with the straight pipe from the cat backwards makes a decent rumble on the overrun. Need to shoot video of it at some point to see if it shoots flames or anything cool though.


The KLE just does whatever the fuck this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY2Yrx1Qgp0
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vracktal wrote:

The KLE just does whatever the fuck this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY2Yrx1Qgp0


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PostPosted: 22:33 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MT-03 does this all day long (with the stock can). Could explain the rather poor fuel economy Thinking
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

People have learned not to get too close to the back of my bike in holding, she can spit a three foot flame if she is angry.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
People have learned not to get too close to the back of my bike in holding, she can spit a three foot flame if she is angry.


I need to see this, 3 foot flame is mega cool! Have some free fake internet points for coolness Cool
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

EFI bikes and overrun fuel cut off though? Surely in todays age of manufacturers and legislation obsessed in getting some decent mpg out of big bikes and performance engines to the point that it ruins the throttle response and drivability, they use this feature too?

I know early EFI bikes and anything pre-cat would have had the fueling strategy of basically being an electronic carb and if it doubt give it a another spray of fuel just to make sure its gulping it all the time, but in 2015, I'm surprised that many newer bikes even with loud pipes are spitting and banging like a VTR1000 with microns and a DJ kit.

I quite like my quiet refined little 2strokes these days, so banging and flames does not seem too important or cool. Will be happier too when I get the car mapped on an ECU that does not drown it, so that it too stops making flames after a boot full on the ring road.
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