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TbirdX
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Bus Lanes Reply with quote

Time to check the BCF knowledge base.

A few times now I've been bowling along the bus lane when it merges into the normal traffic via a set of lights. Presumably when a bus approaches these lights change to let the bus pass. However, when I get there they've always stayed red (at least for as long as I waited for them which was precisely zero seconds)

I just filtered around them into normal traffic and continued on my merry way.

Right, wrong, does anyone give a shit?
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Busses will have a doofer in them to trigger the lights. If you had sat at them waiting, you'd be there a long time. The only thing to do is go round.

The fact that there were lights there though, suggests that perhaps you shouldn't have been using that lane. Did you check it was ok?

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PostPosted: 21:58 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lights at the bus lane I usually use is triggered by sensors in the ground, I have to ride over the right part of the road at the right speed for them to pickup, found braking on the right parts of the road would help.

If they don't change after 30 seconds and there are no police behind you then go through or do what you did, probably not right but I'm sure coppers would understand.


edit: I tend to exit the bus lane and join the normal lane now to avoid stopping all the other traffic and having to wait at lights (is a bit of a gamble). bus lane solid line is faded away so no one cares.


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PostPosted: 21:59 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for that.

The signs said buses, taxis, pushbike and motorcycles, so all good there.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finternet wrote:
I'm sure coppers would understand.

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PostPosted: 22:17 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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coppers would understand.



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PostPosted: 22:18 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a bus lane near me there's a traffic light at the end before the merge, but the solid white line is only on the 'normal' lane. Therefore blazing through the 'red' in a bus lane is fine in this case since there is no white line to otherwise illegally cross.

Is this the same case as yours? or are there a set of lights for both the bus lane and normal traffic?

It could be that the lights changed red to stop the normal traffic to let you pass Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think, that there are two sets of lights, when the bus lights are red the normal traffic lights are green and vice versa.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 18 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudshark wrote:
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coppers would understand.



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Whilst I agree with the sentiment...
If I remember my riding lessons/highway code correctly, if a set of traffic lights appears to not be functioning correctly, you continue and proceed with caution.
Even G-man can't be stupid enough to expect people to sit and wait because a light is stuck on red or completely out.
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finternet wrote:
The lights at the bus lane I usually use is triggered by sensors in the ground, I have to ride over the right part of the road at the right speed for them to pickup, found braking on the right parts of the road would help.

If they don't change after 30 seconds and there are no police behind you then go through or do what you did, probably not right but I'm sure coppers would understand.

edit: I tend to exit the bus lane and join the normal lane now to avoid stopping all the other traffic and having to wait at lights (is a bit of a gamble). bus lane solid line is faded away so no one cares.


AIUI you are allowed to do a normal lane change out of a bus lane whenever you have reason to? In which case as long as you don't pass a red light, but change lanes (correctly) to avoid it, the police have no grounds to complain. (If you decide the lights aren't going to change and deliberately jump them staying in the same lane, you're on much more dodgy ground.)

The 'bus lane' line is big and solid and scary to try to keep cars out, but AFAIK if you are allowed to use that lane it's just an ordinary lane divider.
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give up on bikes, get a jetpack, problems fucking solved.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
Give up on bikes, get a jetpack, problems fucking solved.


Don't be an idiot, Jet Packs aren't allowed in bus lanes. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mauzo wrote:
Finternet wrote:
The lights at the bus lane I usually use is triggered by sensors in the ground, I have to ride over the right part of the road at the right speed for them to pickup, found braking on the right parts of the road would help.

If they don't change after 30 seconds and there are no police behind you then go through or do what you did, probably not right but I'm sure coppers would understand.

edit: I tend to exit the bus lane and join the normal lane now to avoid stopping all the other traffic and having to wait at lights (is a bit of a gamble). bus lane solid line is faded away so no one cares.


AIUI you are allowed to do a normal lane change out of a bus lane whenever you have reason to? In which case as long as you don't pass a red light, but change lanes (correctly) to avoid it, the police have no grounds to complain. (If you decide the lights aren't going to change and deliberately jump them staying in the same lane, you're on much more dodgy ground.)

The 'bus lane' line is big and solid and scary to try to keep cars out, but AFAIK if you are allowed to use that lane it's just an ordinary lane divider.


Of course you are. Double lines you keep to the right if the closest one to you is solid, a single solid line you can cross.

Don't do it if the solid line is bracketing a chevron though, that's a 3-pointer.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones in York are on a pressure sensor under a fairly obvious rectangle before the lights. The Viff's lardy arse easily triggers them but I have noticed that if I'm behind a bus and it triggers one of the short-lit ones, it won't trigger again with me on it so I end up having to go through a red or the bus driver that inevitably ends up behind me gets in a right radge (cool story bro tell it again!)
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most sensors are induction-loop so they will be triggered by the mass of the crankshaft or gearbox. For best results stop with your engine over the sensor.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Most sensors are induction-loop so they will be triggered by the mass of the crankshaft or gearbox. For best results stop with your engine over the sensor.

Empirical or anecdotal?
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 19 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Pete. wrote:
Most sensors are induction-loop so they will be triggered by the mass of the crankshaft or gearbox. For best results stop with your engine over the sensor.

Empirical or anecdotal?


We sometimes have to cut the grooves for the loops.
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 20 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, so is that what the rectangular tar snake is then?
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 20 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
Ah, so is that what the rectangular tar snake is then?


Yep:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_loop
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 20 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Learn summert new eh, all these years I thought it was pressure thing Rolling Eyes
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