Choke holds

[Gazz]

I'm not really into MMA as such. If it's on I'll watch it but wouldn't go out of my way to watch it. However something which has puzzled me recently after seeing a recent fight, was; why do the fighters tap out basically as soon as a choke hold is applied?

If a choke hold restricts you taking a breath, surely they should be able to hold on for a minute or so - taking into consideration that they might already be a little out of breath from fighting.

Am I missing something?

[lihp]

[Beehive Bedlam]

[duhawkz]

[GhostRider]

[DRZ4Hunned]

For professional MMA I'd imagine it's to maintain a record. i.e. TKO, KO or submission.
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[lihp]

[duhawkz]

It's entirely down to the fact that choke/strangle holds are nasty and particularly effective.

I've had a few slapped on me when I was doing martial arts, even a lightly applied one in practice is incredibly uncomfortable.
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[Itchy]

Wild guess pulled out of my bum.

But I'm going to say it's a gentleman's agreement that if you are in such a position the person doing the choking doesn't really choke you. And the person being 'choked' taps out in order to respect the fact he was moved into such a position.

Sort of like in European martial arts. Sure a sword touch won't hurt you but you concede that it does.

In that doing this minimises injury on both sides.

The 'chokee' might get a life/death survival response, the kind that would tear their own muscles and ruin their tendons. The choker probably doesn't want to be anywhere near somebody who has such a response.

Sort of like when you see it takes 4+ police to restrain one person who is freaking out.
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[duhawkz]

Why would somebody go through some of the beatings i've seen meated out in mma only to tap out because the other guy puts an arm round their neck.
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[Hefty]

[MarJay]

Is a sport fight worth permanent brain damage?
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[Itchy]

[duhawkz]

[duhawkz]

Also did you even read my first post in this thread about how strangle hold work or how dangerous they are?
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[Itchy]

[duhawkz]

[Itchy]

[duhawkz]

[Itchy]

[andym]

I have to admit I've only ever watched a couple of fights, but I found this on youtube.... which might be NSFW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HALf3esHQJ0 (top 20 UFC submissions)

There is a lot of choke hold submissions in that video and from what I can tell, they know they are beat, so they tap out before they pass out. Same with stretching their arm, they tap out before (usually) it breaks, although I have seen a clip where the arm was broken before the submission

[duhawkz]

[duhawkz]

Look at fight 19, its about 30 seconds in.

He doesn't tap out because he's acknowledged some unwritten rule or as some mark of respect to the other guy for getting him in that position as itchy suggests.

He is tapping out because the other guy is actually really choking the fuck out of him and he wants it to end.
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[thx1138]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0VEFalOnyQ