derbi gpr50

[on_one]

hi im 16 soon and im want to get a derbi gpr50 does anyone know how if they are reliable, is it easy to get spare parts and is there anything i should check on second hand ones.

also my dad wants me to get a yamaha tzr 50 because he preferes japanise bikes, do you think that there much better than the derbi which is spanish. i live near both a derbi and a yamaha dealer so i dont think it should be to bad to get spare parts

thanks

(edit added a poll)

[Git]

From a totally bias view I would go Japanese.
As for reliability, no idea.

[Keith]

The GPR is a great bike. Personally I prefer the old ones to the new. Can be picked up pretty cheaply and spare parts arent a problem. I never had reliability problems with my old Derbi Senda (same engine, just in an enduro frame,) so Derbi definitely gets a from me.

Remember, reliability is also down to how you treat it, so dont judge a manufacturer due to someone elses own bad experiences. I've heard that the TZR uses the AM6 engine, which can be found in pretty much all the other 50cc geared mopeds, RS50 for example, so it has a pretty decent motor.

If anything, go for the one which you prefer the look of. Not much difference between the two apart from the looks. Which GPR are you thinking of, one of the new style ones with the under seat pipe?
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[on_one]

thanks for the replys im thinking about a 2000ish one cause there the nicest in my opinion (apart froim the 05's but there alot more than i want to spend on a first bike) and there not to expensive. i prefer the gpr to the tzr

[Keith]

If you prefer the TZR, go for it. I think they are slightly more expensive because of the Yamaha badge but as I said, shouldnt be much different to the GPR or other race replicas.

How much are you looking to spend?

Not wise to go spending stupid money on a 50cc which will only end up getting dropped at some point, best to save more pennies for your 17, be it for a car or a bigger bike.
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[on_one]

im looking to spen about £1300 at the most really ive wanted a bike for years cause mydad rides a suzuki tl100r and i go to all the bike shows with him so ive been looking foward to being 16 since i was about 14 which is why i dont want a shity moped.
i know i will proberly crash so i was going to look at getting the crash bobbin thing does anyone know if they do some that will work on the gpr https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/catalogue/product_detail.asp?CLS=MCYCLE&TLGRP=MC003&PGRP=MCP022&GRP=MCP022&PCODE=MTXDHMK9

[Dom_]

Nah mate they are pretty useless really, unless you come off on an even surface and your bike hits no other objects i.e. curb etc..

Personally i'd go for the RS50, although i am biasd. As for the reliability, as Keith said the TZR uses the same engine as the RS50, Reiju RS1/RS2, Motorhispania RX50/Furia so it has nothing to do with 'Japanese reliability'

I know of 3 people that have seized a Derbi 50cc engine now, and not one that has seized a moto minarelli (used in most other geared 50cc mopeds)

Personally i dislike the look of the GPR 50 but at the end of the day it's down to opinion, if i had to pick between the two i'd pick the TZR. But deep down i'd want an rs

[mrchips]

Kawasaki AR50. Cheaper and probably faster.
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[Dr Nick]

Mate put an H100 engine in an MT5 frame, great little bike, he was 16 at the time insuring it as a normal MT5
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[nick.h]

you looked at the RX50, its in the same league as those other bikes stated.

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[Josh|RD125LC]

Maybe consider a Yamaha DT50 or a Suzuki TS50 as they are cheaper and more reliable than other 50cc bikes. Also there is the Honda MT50 (whack a H100 engine in there ) Theres always the Cagiva Prima 50 or as someone else said a Kawasaki AR50. All these are quite cheap bikes and if treated with respect they won't need too much maintenance. That leaves you with more money to put towards a bigger bike

I bought an 1984 Honda MBX50 (Avatar) and it has been so reliable. Hasn't broken down once and had no problems what so ever. I have fallen off it once and I'm glad its an old bike with little fairing because if it had been an expensive sports replica the price to repair would have been enourmous. Just a suggestion but go for an older bike like some of the ones above. Good luck choosing
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[NY_Sniper]

Well what ever you do dont get a Derbi there a cunt to get parts for and second hand there well........ shit lol mine fell apart between my legs :S
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[Dom_]

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[Fire_Eyes]

If you're lucky you might be able to get last months issue of Bike. It has a small article of the derbi. It said that it's a good bike but the aprilia has better performence and something else, I think it was handling. Hope this helps.
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[mrchips]

[carnislick]

i'd say the GPR

its got some cooler bits on than the others (USD forks) etc

and in my experience its the fastest out of all three.

maybe slightly poorer build quality than the RS but then again on 50 you can't really expect much. GPR has a handy false tank which comes in useful.

GPR 50 all the way mate

Paul
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[simon1221]

Deff not the tzr 50, it weighs more than my tzr125!


TZR50:
"Dry weight (kg) 113 kg"

TZR125:
"Dry Weight (kg) 108 kg"


You will be hard pressed to get any of these 50s but if you want my choice it would be GPR50
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[ts50x0]

if the aprillia has the same engine as the tzr get the aprillia, if your afta a 200 model that skinny wheel and that big seat hump look soooooo good!!!!! put an arrow exhaust on and they sound awsome too!
the ts50 will be more reliable but the only way to get them to go as fast as an rs will be a big bore kit and it depends on how legal you wanna be, also they dont really need any maintanance, will not take so long to warm up and will do practicly no damage if you drop it. i have had 2, one i dropped from 0mph and not a mark and the other i got knocked off at about 15mph and it cost 100 to fully repair at a main dealer!
bargain! also parts are easy to get, not that it broke down, just when i fell off.