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PostPosted: 15:48 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speed limits on motorways. They're the safest roads in the country yet have the most cameras. Why aren't we allowed to make the jump to hyperspace? Especially as there's nothing around after about 11pm.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: Motoring Laws You Would Like To Change?. Reply with quote

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BAWWWWWW

we're not allowed to, so others shouldn't be allowed to either.


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PostPosted: 15:53 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japanese style 'Proof-of-Parking' to be able to register/licence a car/van.

I live in a town full of Edwardian terraces, few with off-street-parking; You cant have a two-car house-hold living in such homes, when they only have 18 ft of 'frontage' and the 'average' car is 17 foot long!

Just think; if people had to prove they had some-where to park a car, or pay for off-street parking to get it, before they could register/tax it?

How many cars would be removed from the roads?

All the streets round here would become like blooming motorways!

TWO WAY TRAFFIC! rather than a series of chicken challenges every 20 yards!

How many 'new' roads wouldn't we have to pay to build, how many existing roads could we actually maintain properly IF they were used AS 'roads' rather than fucking car-parks!
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
Speed limits on motorways. They're the safest roads in the country yet have the most cameras. Why aren't we allowed to make the jump to hyperspace? Especially as there's nothing around after about 11pm.
This.

I think somewhere between completely unlimited German autobahns and French weather-dependant speed limits would work alright here; 70 is ridiculous.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: Motoring Laws You Would Like To Change?. Reply with quote

ZX-7R wrote:
New drivers can basically drive what they like at 17 if they have the cash,yet are far more a danger on the road than a motorcyclist,who spends their time on smaller less powerful machines gaining experience.

Should be done by weight. Seeing as most van and 4x4 drivers seem to struggle driving something that size, I'd like to see a separate licensing category. Lets be honest with cars you're struggling to insure a 1.2 Corsa as a new driver, let alone anything decent.

I'd like to see c**ts who don't indicate, or drop oil all over the road given fines Smile Also speed camera's, average & red light speed camera's just prove it's all about revenue and not safety. The M1's a good example of where they've installed camera's purely for the £££.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Driving tests every 5 years, mandatory and no excuses. Test to include CBT and cycling proficiency.

And I'd like a hundred fair maidens licking peanut butter off my bell end.

I know which is more likely.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make red lights mean Give Way, while reminding people that 'green means you may go on if the way is clear. Take special care if you intend to turn left or right and give way to pedestrians who are crossing'.

Watch pointless off-peak congestion essentially vanish overnight.
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

To get a licence, you must also have to ride a bike, motorbike. Drive a coach, lorry & Artic before you can pass the test to understand the requirements of other road users.

A lowering of the points before ban for anyone that drives for a living (they should know better) and NO avoiding a ban, no matter what. If you need to drive then drive to the law.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would be amazing if motorcycle were also allowed to use ASL cycle boxes
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
To get a licence, you must also have to ride a bike, motorbike. Drive a coach, lorry & Artic before you can pass the test to understand the requirements of other road users.


I think the part in bold is a bit OTT tbh and could probably taught the understanding part in a classroom environment. Although, most of that is/should be common sense but, I am aware that this in short suppy in some people.

It's already expensive enough learning to pass your test on your particular choice of vehicle. Imagine how that cost would increase if you had to learn and sit tests for every other type.

An increase in the motorway speed limit is something I agree with and also a test re-sit every X amount of years would be a good thing. The only problem with the latter is the current shortage of examiners we currently have in the UK.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would make it illegal to be BoozeHawk.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

No restriction for first motorbike for under 21's, sure lots of people would die but more spares Smile Being allowed to turn left on red lights if its clear. Autobahn like motorways. More speed cameras in 30 and 20 zones.

edit: also a 6 month ban for those texting while driving, they can pay a big fine to reduce ban, money will be spent on roads.


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PostPosted: 18:16 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fin wrote:
More speed cameras in 30 and 20 zones.

Eh?
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Fin wrote:
More speed cameras in 30 and 20 zones.

Eh?


I second your Eh?
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

evilzed wrote:
Would be amazing if motorcycle were also allowed to use ASL cycle boxes


Yeah this.


Waaaiiit a minute!!!

You don't use them?
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

As we live in an age where not seeing a pedestrian and running them over killing the pedestrian is not causing death by careless driving. Nor is overtaking on a blind bend and driving head-long into a biker killing them. I want to see "causing death or injury while in charge of a vehicle". No arguments over what was careless or not. The only argument is was the driver/rider primarily responsible for the collision or not.

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PostPosted: 18:28 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The speed limits, well, not that long ago Czech gov. wanted to raise the highway speed limit from 130km/h to 150km/h and from 90km/h to 110km/h on some extra-urban roads. Then, they've realized that people already go 150km/h and 110km/h (above the limit) on those roads today and if they set the limit to 150km/h, they would start to push it at 170km/h (130km/h on the extra-urban roads).

If it was up to me, I would abolish the speed limits (could be limited with a speed sign at selected roads) and I would keep the in town limits (50km/h = 30mph; + whatever the sign says rule). But it would be a huge gamble with road safety. I can see 3 outcomes here.
1) The number of accidents would go up (as people can't behave),
2) The number would stay the same (as the vast majority doesn't own a fast car and motorcyclists are already doing triple digits all the time anyway. But faster car traffic could, coincidentally, increase the safety of the motorcyclists),
3) The number would go slightly down (but I am very sceptial about that)

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The car licencing should also change (the other car/lorry groups would be the same)
B1 = up to 1450ccm (basic course) - a plenty of cheap cars
B2 = up to 2000ccm (intermediate course) - the vast majority of cars today are between 1600ccm and 2000ccm
B open = what ever has got 4 wheels and engine (advance course) - boy racers

I wouldn't use the age criteria to divide drivers into groups. If you are 18 and you can handle 600 hp sports car, then I can't see a reason why you shouldn't be allowed to drive it. On the other hand, if you are 30 years old and can barely drive a 60hp car, then I think it is in the best interest of the society to prevent you from driving the 600hp vehicle on the public roads.
I wouldn't use the power, and/or power to weight ratio as it's easier for the customers to pick a car by its engine displacement.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The end of average speed limits, not because I want to be a loon all the time, but if on a 50mph road you can't overtake arctics and get jammed up and boxed in..

>3 lane roads the flow and volume should naturally determine the speed..

I like the French variable weather based limits tbh... But the stupid fookin variable at a whim limits in the uk that enforced by " safety " cameras are just plain stupid and dangerous. More time taken watching the speedo and being too self focused instead of environment / road focused..

Oh yer a One thousand yr ban for leaving the fukin fog light on with no fog!!
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to see car/bike theft to be taken more seriously in the UK.

In the USA, you get assfucked by the courts, here you are not even likely to get caught, let alone get to the point where the judge calls you naughty.

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PostPosted: 18:45 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:

TBF that engine probably fell out Wink
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

If any speed limit is broken by more than X% of vehicles by more 10mph then those responsible for that speed limit become liable for any speeding tickets. After all, if it is so obviously wrongly set then those who set it wrongly should receive the punishment.

RhynoCZ wrote:
Then, they've realized that people already go 150km/h and 110km/h (above the limit) on those roads today and if they set the limit to 150km/h, they would start to push it at 170km/h (130km/h on the extra-urban roads).


The anti car lobby in the UK frequently comes up with this story, but it is pretty much well known to be untrue. There are plenty of documented cases of increased speed limits resulting in a reduced traffic speed. In effect if a speed limit is seen as vaguely sensible then people put a bit of effort into keeping to it, but when it is seen as ludicrous then people completely ignore it.

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PostPosted: 19:14 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
The anti car lobby in the UK frequently comes up with this story, but it is pretty much well known to be untrue. There are plenty of documented cases of increased speed limits resulting in a reduced traffic speed. In effect if a speed limit is seen as vaguely sensible then people put a bit of effort into keeping to it, but when it is seen as ludicrous then people completely ignore it.

A local industrial estate access road reduced to 30mph from 50mph. This resulted in an average speed increase of about 5mph. However far more problematic was peoples reaction to a pointless 30mph limit; either ludicrously cautious or not giving a damn. This resulted in a speed range of 20-60+mph, rather than the 40-55mph before the 30mph limit was imposed.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should be allowed to deal with cyclists who use the road when there is a perfectly fine cycle path running parallel with it. Either by running them over, or lassoing them and taking them on the motorway.

[edit] And leave them in front of the wanker in the artic overtaking another one at 0.001mph faster. Let's see how much they want to really be part of the traffic flow.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 19 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
I should be allowed to deal with cyclists who use the road when there is a perfectly fine cycle path running parallel with it. Either by running them over, or lassoing them and taking them on the motorway.

[edit] And leave them in front of the wanker in the artic overtaking another one at 0.001mph faster. Let's see how much they want to really be part of the traffic flow.

Sure because in over 100k miles 2 broken fingers of road riding is far more dangerous than fractured ribs, broken legs & 3 concussions in about 3000 miles of riding on segregated cycle paths.


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