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PostPosted: 17:33 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Manual Tyre changer bar for alloy wheels (car) Reply with quote

Anyone got experience with different bars made for alloy wheels for use on a manual tyre changer for cars?

You get some with rollers, some with rollers that don't roll and the cheapest I've found just as a flat bit of plastic on the end of the bar.

All seem to be expensive for what they are.

On bike wheels at the moment I just use normal bike tyre levers working them around a bit at a time, but it could be nice to be able to use it car-style (spinning around rather than repeatedly levering) if that was possible.

I do have a car steel tyre leaver which should be fine for steel rims - I've got a 'proper' tyre machine elsewhere, but no space for it here/large compress here.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit of a speshalized thing tyres is. At least in the UK it seems that way.
There are plenty companies sell the shit but they seem to only cater to trade only. It may be a liability issue where they don't want to be sited in a fatal accident enquiry so only sell to pros and not Joseph Public. Smile

I struggle to get quality products for the little tyre work we do. We use American shit mostly and as with all stuff, some brands better than others.

As far as rim protection is concerned (That's both an industrial term and a sexual preference) I have only used the Teflon-like plastic (not teflon but same colour) protectors and standard tyre levers.

I think if you were to try American Auto sites you will get more range then see if they have UK importer/agent.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Manual Tyre changer bar for alloy wheels (car) Reply with quote

'Most all 'trade' will be using a tyre machine with rotating plate and arm, so will be fine with a steel bar?
(And many dealers will have fully automatic machines that do it all for you with minimal human intervention.)

I wouldn't mind trying some of the thinner protectors for bikes as always found the thick ones make it irksomely hard with the added diameter.
On cars however, seems most people use a bigger lever spun around, give the choice.

Though, with all that - for the moment I'm not planning to use it on any particularly nice alloys, so may not be a big thing.

Ones like this: https://alloy-mate.webs.com/
Or even cheaper, this: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231904898094
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 04 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Manual Tyre changer bar for alloy wheels (car) Reply with quote

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'Most all 'trade' will be using a tyre machine with rotating plate and arm, so will be fine with a steel bar?
(And many dealers will have fully automatic machines that do it all for you with minimal human intervention.)

I wouldn't mind trying some of the thinner protectors for bikes as always found the thick ones make it irksomely hard with the added diameter.
On cars however, seems most people use a bigger lever spun around, give the choice.

Though, with all that - for the moment I'm not planning to use it on any particularly nice alloys, so may not be a big thing.

Ones like this: https://alloy-mate.webs.com/
Or even cheaper, this: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231904898094


I know commercial operations will use machines. (we have a Wurth unit all singing and dancing for car, truck and wheel barra tyres.)

I watched a clip showing that first item linked in-service. Dangerous looking ham-fisted design. It actually looked home made. The paint finish makes it look real though. It wasn't properly nailed to the floor mind you.
I remember an Aussie Mechanic who had made a bead breaker for split-rim Hilux/Landcruiser wheels. It was ace and cost him some 1-1/2 tubing and a few welding rods. I copied the design for a desert job myself. But not as nice as his.
If you have facility to clash a one together yourself, I think the metal used needs to be heavy gauge to last and not flap around.
I would use nothing less than 2.5mm wall thickness tubing and possibly 6mm-10mm plate. Substantial shit laphs at stubborn beads and shallow wheel wells.

https://www.google.kz/search?q=home+made+bead+breaker&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=965&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHtNvl7sDMAhVpKpoKHX98B3sQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=WJ7AOUFHzv0WHM%3A
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 04 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Manual Tyre changer bar for alloy wheels (car) Reply with quote

Bead breaker isn't the issue - I now have an air one for car/van tyres.

It's the bar to get the tyres off without further knackering the rim.

The two bars linked to are very much 'home made'.
The 'tyre machine' shown in the video of the first one is a standard cheap tyre machine - they're not a lot of cop it seems, but can be got from £35-£40.

Branded bars for alloy wheels start at around £100 for the Sealey TC963.
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