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PostPosted: 16:37 - 21 May 2016    Post subject: Wifi range boost? Reply with quote

Ahoy ahoy ahoy.

I'm with Virgin and have the superhub thingy.

Now. The speeds wireless-ly are very good downstairs but upstairs the signal can be a little lacking, so far as having no signal in the back bedroom.

I've had a quick look on ebay and for sale are some devices that get plugged in which supposedly pick up the weak signal, amplify it and emits that signal. Are they as good as they say?

Also, if they're rubbish, could you provide me with links to what I would need to solve this issue?

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PostPosted: 16:56 - 21 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same issue with the Superhub. What helped a lot for me was to use an external router plugged into the Superhub and that extended the range. I switched the Superhub to 'modem mode' to do this. Not really what you expect from a 'Superhub' but it worked for me.

https://help.virginmedia.com/system/selfservice.controller?CMD=VIEW_ARTICLE&ARTICLE_ID=27555&CURRENT_CMD=SEARCH&CONFIGURATION=1001&PARTITION_ID=1&USERTYPE=1&LANGUAGE=en&COUNTY=us&VM_CUSTOMER_TYPE=Cable
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 21 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

image riot wrote:
I had the same issue with the Superhub. What helped a lot for me was to use an external router plugged into the Superhub and that extended the range. I switched the Superhub to 'modem mode' to do this. Not really what you expect from a 'Superhub' but it worked for me.


I know the grand sum of cock all about routers. How would i choose what to buy?
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 21 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
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I had the same issue with the Superhub. What helped a lot for me was to use an external router plugged into the Superhub and that extended the range. I switched the Superhub to 'modem mode' to do this. Not really what you expect from a 'Superhub' but it worked for me.


I know the grand sum of cock all about routers. How would i choose what to buy?


For me I used a Netgear one I had lying around but you can pick up cheap ones on ebay. I'm not an expert myself but I'm sure there's extenders on ebay too.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 21 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chuck the hub in "modem mode" and grab a Netgear WNDR3700 then chuck ddwrt on it.

WIFI ALL THE PLACES!
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 21 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Chuck the hub in "modem mode" and grab a Netgear WNDR3700 then chuck ddwrt on it.

WIFI ALL THE PLACES!


I will look for one of those WNDRs and then I'll be back later to ask wtf is ddwrt! Smile
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 21 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Defo bin the super hub, I did and never looked back.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 21 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
wtf is ddwrt! Smile

It's a 3rd party firmware upgrade. Much more powerful than the OEM firmware. I use it here to wirelessly link routers 'cause I can't be bothered to run CAT5 everywhere Wink
https://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 21 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you connecting to? And have you tried basic stuff like changing the channel first?

If its a proper puter then get a new network card with external higain antenna, if it's a laptop or similar then you'll need a new router, but I wouldn't recomend the one Cansa posted simply because it doesn't have replaceable antenna. If you find you need a bit more oomph still you're kind of stuck.

I use an Asus AC56U, which does a solid 250mbps across opposite corners of the house (probably 10m in a straightline, through 3 walls and the floor.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 21 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

herulach wrote:
What are you connecting to? And have you tried basic stuff like changing the channel first?

If its a proper puter then get a new network card with external higain antenna, if it's a laptop or similar then you'll need a new router, but I wouldn't recomend the one Cansa posted simply because it doesn't have replaceable antenna. If you find you need a bit more oomph still you're kind of stuck.

I use an Asus AC56U, which does a solid 250mbps across opposite corners of the house (probably 10m in a straightline, through 3 walls and the floor.


Good advice, but the VM Hub is shit. Complete and utter shit,

If OP was using a different device I would have offered the same info as you.
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 22 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
herulach wrote:
What are you connecting to? And have you tried basic stuff like changing the channel first?

If its a proper puter then get a new network card with external higain antenna, if it's a laptop or similar then you'll need a new router, but I wouldn't recomend the one Cansa posted simply because it doesn't have replaceable antenna. If you find you need a bit more oomph still you're kind of stuck.

I use an Asus AC56U, which does a solid 250mbps across opposite corners of the house (probably 10m in a straightline, through 3 walls and the floor.


Good advice, but the VM Hub is shit. Complete and utter shit,

If OP was using a different device I would have offered the same info as you.

100% agreed, I have one too!

Still think a router with replaceable antennas is a good idea though.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 22 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

£17.99 WiFi extender from Argos (TP Link) did me alright. Cheap and cheerful and the signal no longer drops. Plug it in near the hub, let it connect to it wirelessly (using WPS) and then move the plug where it can still pick up a good signal, somewhere between the hub and the area you're looking to reach. It's about as easy as any solution can get.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 22 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Upstairs, the missus struggles with her laptop. Also we bave some wireless cameras we use to spy on the birds, the signal is very slow and thus the picture is very stop starty and sometimes no signal at all.

I might try changing the channel on the hub now and see if theres a difference. What do replaceable antennae routers have as a bonus? Does the antenna help boost the signal more?

Does ddwrt effectively boost the wndr signal even more?
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 22 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.

You can increase the transmitting power too Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 22 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried using a couple of different wifi extenders and found them to be unreliable and slow.

I've got something similar to this now and am happy with it:- https://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1168680.htm

It's not perfect but it was easier and cheaper than upgrading my router.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 22 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Yes.

You can increase the transmitting power too Very Happy


Theres one on ebay im watching that finishes tonight so I'll have a punt. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 22 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, step forward has been taken. I won a WNDR3700-100UKS "300 Mbps Gigabit Wireless N Router".

And it'll be with me probably by end of the week. I like the feature of having my hard drive plugged into it so stuff on the network can see that.

Anyway, I've been on that ddwrt wesbite, and I'm possibly being very lazy, but I can't really see how to download what I need to download. I found the supported devices tab and found some versions of that router, not sure how I'll know unless it's on a sticker on the unit when it arrives. EDIT - oooh it's a v3, I found that out ...

This webpage is the wiki for it, is it a case of following some simple destructions ?
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 22 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
This webpage is the wiki for it, is it a case of following some simple destructions ?


Yeppers.

Update the stock netgear firmware using this
WNDR3700 v3 Firmware - Webflash image for first installation

https://www.dd-wrt.com/routerdb/de/download/Netgear/WNDR3700/v3/dd-wrt.v24-21061_NEWD-2_K2.6_mini-WNDR3700v3.chk/4036

Once that has been done, upgrade the DDWRT firmware with this.
https://download1.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/downloads/betas/2016/05-19-2016-r29739/broadcom_K26/dd-wrt.v24-29739_NEWD-2_K2.6_mini-WNDR3700v3.chk
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 25 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
DrSnoosnoo wrote:
This webpage is the wiki for it, is it a case of following some simple destructions ?


Yeppers.

Update the stock netgear firmware using this
WNDR3700 v3 Firmware - Webflash image for first installation

https://www.dd-wrt.com/routerdb/de/download/Netgear/WNDR3700/v3/dd-wrt.v24-21061_NEWD-2_K2.6_mini-WNDR3700v3.chk/4036

Once that has been done, upgrade the DDWRT firmware with this.
https://download1.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/downloads/betas/2016/05-19-2016-r29739/broadcom_K26/dd-wrt.v24-29739_NEWD-2_K2.6_mini-WNDR3700v3.chk


Ok. I've got the router through. Reading the instructions regarding the 30/30/30 reset it says I have to hold the reset button while unplugging etc. I assume this means the Restore Factory Settings button underneath the router? There's only a power button on the back otherwise which you can't really hold down, seeing as it's just a push switch thingy.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 25 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i.imgur.com/azv8Bg3.png
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 25 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/azv8Bg3.png


Yeah I got it. I've just done the upgrade ddwrt bit and it kicked me out sending me to 192.168.1.1/upgrade.cgi. how long should I wait for something to happen? Should I reset the router?
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 25 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I just switched the router off n on again and I'm back. Now, to look through these settings and see if I can understand anything ...
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 25 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next question, what stuff do I play with to get me some super awesome signal all over the house?
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 25 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the Wireless tab, put a tick in the "advanced settings" box.

Look at TX Power and Antenna Gain.

https://dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/QCA_wireless_settings#TX_Power
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 26 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next Next question.

Why does this build not have access to USB, under services? I only have access to Services, VPN and Hotspot. To a hard drive across a network would be swish!

EDIT - Assume it's in the Mega build (link enclosed to the download) ?

I assume this build gives more awesome buttons that I probably don't need access to as a basic user?
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