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FlightRisk
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 30 May 2016    Post subject: Lack of overtaking testes Reply with quote

Right, so I've got this embarrassing personal problem in that every time an overtaking opportunity presents itself, my testicles retract and instead of dropping a cog or two and bouncing off the rev limiter I reach for my pipe & slippers and turn into Captain Sensible.

Generally I won't overtake unless I'd do it in a (slow) car or I know the road really well. Even on wider roads when someone has pulled over a bit to let me pass I'm like 'Nope **** it, not in a rush. I'm just going to sit here and cruise along' but really I've just pussied out.
Yeah, on the one hand, CB500 so it's not really got the 'Engage Warp' mode that bigger bikes have but coming off a roundabout it can still pull past most cages like they're parked. I reckon when it hits 8k rpm it's maybe like Warp 1 - just enough power to prepare you for 'proper' bikes. Smile

Anyway, yeah, I suck... Confused

Edit: for reference, I'm coming up on 7k miles bike experience.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 30 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:49 - 30 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My MT-03's enough to dispatch cagers with ease, so you can't blame the bike here Laughing

I'm the opposite, even on a 125 no way would I sit behind a slow cager. The only exception would be if traffic's reasonably heavy, and there isn't much benefit to 'making progress' will I stay in traffic. Also if there's an opportunity to filter further up, then it can be best to delay an overtake (but less fun).
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 30 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
My MT-03's enough to dispatch cagers with ease, so you can't blame the bike here Laughing


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PostPosted: 16:56 - 30 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Even on wider roads when someone has pulled over a bit to let me pass I'm like 'Nope
They normally do that if you're getting close to them. Maybe back off more.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 30 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overtake whilst doing 100mph.

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PostPosted: 17:06 - 30 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm the same as you OP, but with different motives, I see it more mathematically, Overtake: Increase chances of potato, Not overtake: add an extra 10 seconds to my journey.

Every single person on the road must be confused by me, 90% of them see a sports bike behind them and pull in, even when I'm riding dead centre of the lane.
I'm happy to do the speed limit and not filter, who the hell wants to get to work quicker anyway?
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 30 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overtaking means you're on the roads at risk of potatoing for less time.

I don't think drivers puling closer to the kerb to make it that bit easier for bikes to overtake is cause for complaint.

Why would you not overtake? If you want to sit in traffic at the speed limit and not filter / overtake then you should get a car with air con and an awesome stereo. Razz

When you're going to overtake be decisive and don't dither around or unnecessarily hesitate. A CB500 can easily do more than 100 so you can get past them nice and quickly without much fuss.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 30 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a case of not really knowing how hard you can accelerate, which means you're not really sure how long it'll take you to get past? Practice caning it a bit more?
A more powerful bike does make overtaking a lot easier.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 30 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
M.C wrote:
My MT-03's enough to dispatch cagers with ease, so you can't blame the bike here Laughing


You couldn't beat a DT125 Shocked


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PostPosted: 21:21 - 30 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Lack of overtaking testes Reply with quote

FlightRisk wrote:
I'm a fanny I'm a fanny I'm a fanny I'm a fanny I'm a fanny I'm a fanny I'm a fanny etc etc

Edit: for reference, I'm coming up on 7k miles bike experience.


Where abuts are you in the UK?
Sounds like you need some riding buddies.
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 31 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really seeing the problem.

If traffic is progressing at a reasonable pace there's really no 'need' to overtake.

Personally, I overtake everyone at the earliest opportunity but I don't take risks when doing it*. Diving into non existent gaps and pulling out when there's oncoming traffic is just plain stupidity. No need.

If you don't feel comfortable doing it, then don't. You've got nothing to prove to anyone.




* I'm not perfect either; have done a number of questionable manoeuvres over the years.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 31 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not overtaking when you can, is the right mistake to make.

Cars pulling in doesn't mean you have to do anything.

In fact, when I do overtake, the last thing I want is "help" from idiot drivers pulling in or slowing down. I prefer the traffic to be predictable.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 31 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Lack of overtaking testes Reply with quote

FlightRisk wrote:


Anyway, yeah, I suck... Confused

Edit: for reference, I'm coming up on 7k miles bike experience.


What techniques are you using?

Best tips from me are:
1) Don't do the angry wasp hanging around the rear of the car's bumper, drop back and get a better view.
2) Don't be afraid to be over the centre line to increase visibility where you can see the immediate path is clear. It doesn't take much to tuck back in if there's an oncoming car and it'll help you to assess whether to commit and gun it. Do this early, before arriving on the back of the car you're going to pass.
3) Read the road signs and the road centre white line markings - if you're on a section of road with no hazard warning lines then the chances are what you see in front of you really is what's there, nothing to worry about. If you're on hazard warning lines and it looks clear, have you seen a sign for a hidden dip, or a small side turning to the right, for example? Don't take anything for granted, but use all of the information available to you.
4) If you're on normal road markings and you're going to go past fine, but what are the lines going to be like when you've completed your overtake? Can you see far enough ahead to know you're not going to come back into lane across a solid white line, for example, and what hazard is ahead meaning there is there a solid white line coming up? Can you leave yourself enough time to get back to an appropriate speed to deal with that hazard?
5) When you're thinking about it, get the bike buzzing in the right gear for maximum launch; and when you commit just get the job done. Most of the time one gear and a few seconds of throttle are all you'll need, no need to go fully mental, end up at 100+ MPH and be warp speeding into the next bend you've not even planned for yet - just use the maximum power you have for the shortest time possible to get past and tuck back in, and then re-plan for the rest of it.

And lastly, don't sweat it. Comes with practice and best to have patience than to have an accident.
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 31 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never used to overtake. This weekend though, on an vicious uphill, 2 up, with 50 feet to spare past a lorry? BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP Laughing


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PostPosted: 13:46 - 31 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver_Fox wrote:
I never used to overtake until I rode with BCF


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PostPosted: 14:03 - 31 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver_Fox wrote:
I never used to overtake. This weekend though, on an vicious uphill, 2 up, with 50 feet to spare past a lorry? BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP Laughing


It'll come


You were just trying to escape Pigeon's gear oil chain lubrication
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 31 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
You were just trying to escape Pigeon's gear oil chain lubrication



True. This was me at the campsite afterwards

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PostPosted: 01:18 - 01 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking about your feedbacks, there is a lot of 'Do I... don't I...?' hesitation and lack of commitment. And I think I probably do need to practice properly caning it actually because I'm only getting into the giggle zone once I'm already nearly past the bloody thing I was trying to overtake.

I know, I know - nothing to prove and I don't follow close behind things because I like a little reaction time / space, I just feel like I should BRAAAAAP because biker innit? Laughing And it get's a bit embarrassing when you have a crappy nissan up your exhaust because you're not overtaking a truck.

Here's a thing: if you have a singe white line, can you overtake if you can do it without crossing the line?

On the plus side, I've been doing more filtering lately and damn that is satisfying! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 06:31 - 01 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's a solid line on your side, imagine it as a brick wall. As long as you get past without any part of your bike hitting that wall then you are fine. If any part of you or your bike would have gone over it, then it is illegal. Whether you would get a tug for it depends really on how the officer views your riding and how his day has been.

There's a section of A30 near me that if the cars are towards the left of the lane (not hugging the pavement) you can easily and safely go past them without crossing the line.
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PostPosted: 07:39 - 01 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 bikes in front? 2 up? WOOOF. Off we go Twisted Evil


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Ultimately, do it when you feel comfortable. Don't be risky. It'll naturally improve
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 01 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:
Paddy. wrote:


You couldn't beat a DT125 Shocked


He has you there son

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But but but I thought we agreed that bike had a bigger engine? Crying or Very sad

Also lets not judge the bike on the fag rider Wink
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 01 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: Lack of overtaking testes Reply with quote

*only sees... ...*
FlightRisk wrote:
my testicles


Would you like me to take a look at them for you, dear?

*flexes fingernails enthusiastically*
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 01 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://bearacer.xyz you're lucky in a way that you have a constant power 4 stroke, I occasionally get stuck under the powerband going up a hill trying to overtake a lorry and couple of cars thinking, I'm almost there then I'll have a load of power but at the same time trying to look for oncoming cars at the top of the hill.

If you don't like being such a pussy then remember you can fit between two oncoming cars and probably a lorry / double decker bus.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 01 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think about it in terms of what average speed you want to maintain on any particular road. If the traffic is slower, overtake it at a steady pace. If the traffic is going at the speed you want to go, just stick with it... Its daft getting into the mindset of having to overtake just because there is something in front of you, as that is playing Russian roulette for no appreciable gain.

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