Lost entitlement?

[skatefreak]

Have a buddy.
Passed his test many many many moons ago.
He says he lost his entitlement a year or so ago and has been in touch with the DVLA.
After many letters and much communication they have told him they can see he took and passed the test etc however now say he never sent his licence off and was never given his entitlement as you have to 'claim' your licence within 2 years of passing else you lose it and are back to square one.

He has no copies of his old licences and as a letter from the DVLA telling him to re-take his test from scratch or sod off basically.

Are there any alternative avenues he can investigate as the DVLA are not being very helpful?

Any thoughts would be very much appreciated.

[lihp]

How are the DVLA not been helpful?

They investigated, found he never claimed the entitlement. That's that.

WHy doesn't he send them the pass certificate as his evidence, or has he got rid of this too? If he has, he's an idiot.
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[Rogerborg]

[Pjay]

Plenty of insurance companies over the years request a scan of your licence. Maybe he can get one of those back by either:
Checking his old emails (using the word 'licence' as a search term).
Asking an old insurer nicely if they have a copy on record that they could return.

I have scans of licences going back a good 10 years on my hotmail account. A quick check in my sent folder revealed a good few scans sent.

[lihp]

[skatefreak]

He's a decent honest chap but has gone through a lot over the last few years and bikes have been far from a consideration.

I'm just double checking but am pretty sure it was physically on his licences in the past when he used to do a fair bit of green laning on his husqvarna with his son and another group a friends.

Am checking with him about any points/if he's been pulled in the past...

Many moons ago as is no idea, late 80's/early 90's...

Lost his entitlement as is re-newed his licence and he no longer had A entitlement...

Pjay - Although having never having had to do this myself I well certainly get him on him about that. Exactly the kind of advice I was hoping for

Best regards

[lihp]

[Rogerborg]

If push comes to shove, it turns out that the pass certificate doesn't really mean anything. We're licensed or we aren't, and we're not licensed until DVLA Friend Computer says so, regardless of what DVSA Derek claims.

So we shouldn't really be riding away from tests.
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[andyscooter]

Wonder if that'swhy if you pass a car test the instructor drives you home
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[skatefreak]

@lihp - I'm not sure what you're getting at?
They know he passed the test, they can see on the system he passed the test however they dispute that he never 'claimed' his entitlement by sending in his document's within the 2 year frame after passing his test.
This is the issue.

It appears after this 2 year window has passed you lose your entitlement to claim the licence and have to start again from scratch to get the licence.

If he never had the A added in the first place then fair enough, the law can be an ass but the law is the law at the end of the day and that will be the end of the matter.
Until we get hold of a copy of the licence I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and I'm just wondering what's the chances he may have had a full A that's been lost and they are just fobbing him off?

Long shot I know but never say never and all that?

[lihp]

[skatefreak]

It would appear I've vastly overestimated someones age ...

2001 was the pass year so they would have registered the pass paperwork or not.
Good thinking though.

[tom_e]

There's been a few cases of entitlements disappearing from renewed licences and even if you give them all the evidence in the world they'll just tell you to fuck off and pass another test from what I can remember reading.

[Rogerborg]

[The Shaggy D.A.]

If he hasn't ridden in 20 years he could probably use some lessons anyway - bet his Highway Code isn't up to date
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[Pete.]

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[arry]

The reality is if you're an instructor would you want an over exhuberent up on adrenaline and self confidence 17 year old drive YOU home? Would you hell as like.

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[andyscooter]

[Pete.]

Let's face it'd have to be a right nutter to give the keys to your livelihood to someone high on the euphoria of just having passed their driving test. Even if it wasn't a 'condition of insurance' I for one would certainly say it was.
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[Rogerborg]

I died twice riding home from my mod 2, it was absolutely tragic.
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[Pete.]

You're looking well for it though
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[bamt]

As many driving schools will do the Pass Plus training, then saying that they aren't insured for qualified drivers is obviously false. The emotional state of the (ex) learner is a good reason, though.

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