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CrusaderPhil
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: WK650TR Faults at a thousand miles Reply with quote

WK650TR now has faults at 1000 miles, first and I think at least one is major, which is a high pitch squeal between 2500 and 3500 RPM coming from engine, really ear piercing, dealer says induction noise, that is bullshit of course, I can hear the induction noise separately, cooling fan rattles and another high pitch noise that is constant, not sure what it is but I suspect possibly another fan or something, it is not engine related but is ignition on related.

I also think mine is a derestricted version because it is not very quick compared with a demonstrator machine I rode but no way of telling if it is or not.

Creaking from head bearing.

Front brake suddenly went very grabby at low speed like 1 mile per hour or so, it caught me unawares and had me off, also brakes juddering when stopping from higher speed.

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PostPosted: 13:26 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you bought a Chinese bike that turned out to be a Chinese bike?
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
So you bought a Chinese bike that turned out to be a Chinese bike?


True, Chinese or not there are standards they should be made to adhere to.

Mind you still waiting for parts from Royal Enfield to fix my Bullet I bought last November.

Also had Honda's in the past that have blown up and one almost rotted away, well it did rot way only the frame, engine and head stock usable, a Kawasaki 650 that was a pig to handle the list can go on.

So thought I would give the Chinese ago, I suspect it is not to do with the Chinese bike or importer but more to do with the local dealer who can not be bothered to sort it.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torn between "Informative" and "Funny". Thanks for keeping us posted and I'm sorry to hear that it's not working out so well.

Seems like Enfield-owning IT nerds are prime candidates for buying these things: linuxyeti is Enfield + WK and I had a couple of sniffs too when they were full price.

Got a video of the squealing(s)? If it's purely rev based then that sounds concerning - I'd be fretting that it was eating a camshaft, although I suppose the "good" news is that won't take long to resolve if so.

Grabby brakes sounds like a warped disc or sticking pistons or sliding pin.

I'd be inviting the dealer to make all these issues go away or get ready to pay for someone else to do it, although you may struggle to find anyone who will touch it. Sad
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mine's now approaching 2000 miles, no high pitched squeal, so that doesn't sound right. I've not had any issues with the brakes either. I would get the dealer to have another look, or, perhaps contact WK Bikes, as they 'appear' to be making more of an effort on their facebook page.

When you say ignition related, don't think it's the fuel pump do you? Either way, definitely doesn't sound right.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Seems like Enfield-owning IT nerds are prime candidates for buying these things: linuxyeti is Enfield + WK and I had a couple of sniffs too when they were full price.


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PostPosted: 14:41 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Seems like Enfield-owning IT nerds are prime candidates for buying these things: linuxyeti is Enfield + WK and I had a couple of sniffs too when they were full price.


Yeah, must be an affliction !! Smile
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: WK650TR Faults at a thousand miles Reply with quote

In summary:
CrusaderPhil wrote:

My cheap bike was cheap.


CrusaderPhil wrote:

I also think mine is a derestricted version because it is not very quick compared with a demonstrator machine I rode but no way of telling if it is or not.


I think you mean restricted?

CrusaderPhil wrote:
Needs a bump stop, to stop it braking foot peg and damaging pannier if it falls over, like mine has, because of the brake.


That's not what a bump stop does. I think you mean a crash bung? And braking is what what a brake does. What you mean is breaking.
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:


I may or may not be viewing this shortly Embarassed

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How dare you infiltrate a chinese bike thread, with a bike from Taiwan !! Smile I'm pretty sure the RT125 is Taiwanese, but I could be mistaken.

Stood next to a Lexmoto Valiant the other day, it's actually physically reasonably big, for a 125.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

linuxyeti wrote:
Yeah, must be an affliction !! Smile

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PostPosted: 14:54 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: WK650TR Faults at a thousand miles Reply with quote

CrusaderPhil wrote:
Front brake suddenly went very grabby at low speed like 1 mile per hour or so, it caught me unawares and had me off


Shouldn't be using the front brake at slow speeds, rear only and clutch only.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

After you've done a Gentoo install, anything seems possible.


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PostPosted: 15:01 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:01 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: WK650TR Faults at a thousand miles Reply with quote

Evil Hans wrote:
In summary:
CrusaderPhil wrote:

My cheap bike was cheap.


CrusaderPhil wrote:

I also think mine is a derestricted version because it is not very quick compared with a demonstrator machine I rode but no way of telling if it is or not.


I think you mean restricted?

CrusaderPhil wrote:
Needs a bump stop, to stop it braking foot peg and damaging pannier if it falls over, like mine has, because of the brake.


That's not what a bump stop does. I think you mean a crash bung? And braking is what what a brake does. What you mean is breaking.


Yes I do mean restricted, yes I do mean crash bung, the one on the fairing did its job, although scratched, is only just over £7.00 to replace, footpeg just under a tenner, one at the back would have protected the pannier from what at least is only a tiny scratch.

Yes I did mean breaking footpeg and the brakes are juddering when braking at higher speed and grab at very low speed.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: WK650TR Faults at a thousand miles Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
CrusaderPhil wrote:
Front brake suddenly went very grabby at low speed like 1 mile per hour or so, it caught me unawares and had me off


Shouldn't be using the front brake at slow speeds, rear only and clutch only.


True normally do, on this occasion had to put front on at the last second as I stopped, cannot remember exactly why, I think it started to roll forward as I put both feet down, it being on an uneven surface with a slight slope, had no reason to believe the front brake would grab, never had before.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: WK650TR Faults at a thousand miles Reply with quote

CrusaderPhil wrote:
I think it started to roll forward as I put both feet down


There's your answer. Took the foot of the rear brake and had the clutch pulled in hence why you rolled forwards (assuming you where going downhill) grabbed the front brake and "had you off". Can't really make any further comments since I'm not looking at and or riding on the road where this happened.

Also, and because you say "had me off", does that mean that you've dropped the bike? That then leads to questions of are these sounds and poor brake performance before or after this drop? and many more.
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: WK650TR Faults at a thousand miles Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
CrusaderPhil wrote:
I think it started to roll forward as I put both feet down


There's your answer. Took the foot of the rear brake and had the clutch pulled in hence why you rolled forwards (assuming you where going downhill) grabbed the front brake and "had you off". Can't really make any further comments since I'm not looking at and or riding on the road where this happened.

Also, and because you say "had me off", does that mean that you've dropped the bike? That then leads to questions of are these sounds and poor brake performance before or after this drop? and many more.


All engine performance and braking problems were before and during the ride, I was just pulling in to park after 5 hours of riding and sightseeing, the bay was on a slight slope, yes the bike dropped on to its side, its engine did not cut-out and the FI indicator did not light up, both those are supposed to happen.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: WK650TR Faults at a thousand miles Reply with quote

NJD wrote:

Shouldn't be using the front brake at slow speeds, rear only and clutch only.

I use the front brake all the time at low speed, even did it on my Mod 1.
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: WK650TR Faults at a thousand miles Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
I use the front brake all the time at low speed, even did it on my Mod 1.


So did I, use my front brake at slow speed, for god only knows how long.. I'm not dead. Rear brake + clutch was what I was taught during DAS and what I feel comfortable with. Easier to control the bike while filtering and slow control with the rear brake and clutch than it is front brake and clutch IMO. Push your bike forward at slow speed and press the front brake, forks / front end dips. I watched a rider make progress past some cars previously and you could tell what brake he used to stop because he ended up diving his front end directly next to someone's car door with some car coming the opposite way, looked untidy and surprised he stayed upright.
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only realised this year that bikes have brakes at both ends.

Yes, I know we have to do the "what you ought to have done, right..." thing, but something's not right with OP's brakes and the dealer isn't interested, is my take-away point from this thread.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 06 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: WK650TR Faults at a thousand miles Reply with quote

CrusaderPhil wrote:
Creaking from head bearing.


This is serious and requires investigation. Depending on when it happens it could either be a lack of grease in the bearings or it is indicative of a crack in the frame or steering assembly, either is a warranty matter.
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